Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: Full time student, full time employed, need to take LSAT in 2 months! Help?« on: December 26, 2009, 12:41:23 PM »
So how did the scores go trudawg?
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Not sure what board this would go on, but I wanted to share this story of how sometimes good deeds pay off
My parents have been all over me to attend an event with them. My undergraduate college is close, but not really easily accessible to the event. However, my dad said it was really important to him. So, immediately after a midterm I travel the hour ride in freezing rain on a motorcycle, skipping dinner, just to be the good son.
When I arrive I am sat next to an old family friend who I haven't seen in a while but has known me since I was in 3rd grade. I am bored, but want to be polite so I start a conversation. Turns out he is the head of the Law Clerk and Research section at the headquarters office of ******, a MAJOR law firm with strong ties to the field of law I am most interested in. He goes on to say that he is looking for a paid undergrad intern that he knows he can trust. I slyly introduce the fact that I am pre-law with decent credentials, he bites.
Score 1 for the Good Guys!!!
Don't go to FAMU. Just don't. It's arguably the worst law school in Florida.
but it's also the only one in orlando...she appears to be a single mother of 3 (since she didn't say married with 3) so what do you propose as her alternatives?
Not go to law school. Or move.
Ouch. Why so blunt? And how come I never see you say anything nice on the boards?
Are you in FSU law or are you an FSU grad (from undergrad)?
If her support system to help with those 3 kids is in orlando she is going to need to stay put. Unless she gets into/has relatives or friends committed to helping out near a better ranked school.
I am sure FAMU put that school there precisely because that is a gap in the law school geography, and to serve the folks who may have legal career aspirations but need to stay put.
Plus I notice they went from being provisionally accredited to fully ABA accredited so they must be doing something right.
I personally would not want to be bothered with FAMU's administrative and financial aid b.s. though. lol But that's just me.
I'm generally blunt and to the point because that's how you have to be at this level. You don't have to be a total male private part to everyone, but you do have to realize that sugarcoating things helps no one and gets nothing accomplished. And I say nice things all the time, you just have to be in the right place at the right time.
Yes, I'm at FSU's law school. Tragically, I didn't go here for UG though.
FAMU probably did put their law school in Orlando because they saw a gap in the market, but I wouldn't be so sure about the other altruistic goals, Barry is already there to serve people trapped in Orlando (albeit at a price). And they did become fully accredited, but I don't see how. How the ABA isn't troubled by a bar passage rate that's consistently in the 50-60% range is beyond me. If they ever implement the 10% rule for continuing accreditation, FAMU Law is going to disappear.
Agree that OP should probably stay put where her support system is if that's indeed what's going on. But I don't think that's a particularly good reason to attend one of the worst law schools in the country. It's probably a bad idea to go to a bad UG because it happens to be where you live. It's definitely a bad idea to go to a bad law school because it's what's in the area.
Not to mention, how is the OP going to even kind of take care of 3 kids while in law school? Even with a good support system in place, OP is still not going to be able to work during 1L and isn't going to really have free time to spend with the kids. There's a reason a lot of people go the HS --> UG --> LS route and put off kids for later. Having 3 kids pretty much precludes you from going to law school until they're out the door or at least old enough to take care of themselves.
I once knew a girl who was so wrapped up in elitism and rankings she got into NYU, Columbia, Stanford and Harvard, but got dinged at Yale and based on that 1 ding decided not to go to law school at all.
No, I'm not kidding.
As a black female with dreads (I understand the gender bias for women with dreads) I am all for black men keeping their hair neat and professional. In order for the powers that be to be tolerant of other cultures, it may require black men with dreads to refuse to cut them if that's not their desire. I know a couple of my good friends who cut their dreads for a job they ended up hating anyway, and it was evident from the outset. If an employer has a problem with your hair during the interview process, best believe that's only the tip of the ice berg. That employer may STILL discriminate against you until you realize it wasn't ur dreads at all, its just the culture of that job does not embrace the diversity they may be advertising.dreads and gay rights are being compared now? hairstyle vs. sexual preference?
I personally cannot stand it when people only see dreads in the limited sense, the big Rass dreads that grow out like tumble weeds. There are a variety of ways dreads can be kept, and if you ever seen a professionsl man or woman with dreads, it adds a polish and poise to their look and demeanor.
Since we live in a tight job market, I understand the consequences of a man who refuses to cut his dreads for a job, we simply do not have the luxury right now. But, this problem will not go away once the economy gets better, you may still be confronted with individuals (black or white) who cannot get over your dreadlocks or have negative, LIMITED, connotations about it. My lil bro will be growing his dreads soon, my mom has dreads, and so do I. Just like gay rights and women's reproductive rights, people need to learn to accept and embrace individuality and its up to US dreadheads out there to demand our respect too.
From Paul L. Caron, TaxProf Blog:
LawSchoolNumbers.com ranks the 195 law schools by 1L attrition rates. (The ABA Section on Legal Education publishes aggregate attrition rates, and each school's attrition rate is available on its official ABA data sheet.) Here are the 25 law schools with the highest attrition rates according to LawSchoolNumbers.com, along with the school's 2009 U.S. News overall ranking:
1. Whittier (51.5% 1L attrition, #161 in U.S. News)
2. Touro (37.4%, #171)
3. Golden Gate (36.9%, #174)
4. Western State (32.6%, not ranked)
5. Jones School of Law (32.3%, not ranked)
6. Widener (30.5%, #179)
7. St. Thomas University (28.5%, #174)
8. Barry (27.6%, #181)
9. Liberty (27.1%, not ranked)
10. Thomas M Cooley (26.0%, #181)
11. Florida Coastal (23.7%, #171)
12. California Western (23.6%, #156)
13. Valparaiso (23.4%, #143)
14. Florida International (23.3%, #153)
15. Capital (22.8%, #161)
16. Louisville (22.5%, #100)
17. North Carolina Central (22.1%, #168)
18. Detroit Mercy (21.9%, $163)
19. Nova Southeastern (21.8%, #158)
20. Oklahoma City (21.0%, $168)
21. Willamette (21.0%, #137)
22. Western New England (20.7%, #171)
23. Northern Kentucky (20.2%, #156)
24. University of The District of Columbia (20.0%, #181)
25. Franklin Pierce (19.9%, #131)
With the economy and the over over abundance of law schools and graduates, how in good conscious can the ABA justify keeping these school accredited. They are all abominations. And Louisville.... SHAME ON YOU!
Thank you Global Moderator!
It's rather hard to give you a definitive answer re: number of preptests to take. I've heard/read high scorers taking as few as 5, and as many as 50. Myself, I took probably 25, and I scored a 173.
Ultimately, it's the quality of prep that will matter for your improvement.
It feels like i am rearranging furniture in my head. This is so stress. Reevaluating my life is driving me crazy on top of realizing all the mistakes i made so far. It's exhausting.
I appreciate the advice of what not to do, anymore is very appreciated. I feel like i've lost and i haven't started. What a baby!