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I have a coupe of DUI's. Will that effect the barz desicion? Its not like I killed

I wouldn't sweat it.  Of course, it varies by state, but I know a couple people who had multiple DUIs and did fine - one of them even got a DUI while in law school.  Own up to it, acknowledge your previous disregard for the law, and establish how you've rehabilitated yourself since.  And, of course, disclose everything.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Missing School!!!
« on: July 15, 2009, 10:44:27 AM »
You're joking.  This is your last free summer.  You can't find ANYTHING to do??  Some suggestions:
1) Seek psychotherapy and work on getting a life
2) As someone else suggested, drink yourself into oblivion so you don't have to worry about it anymore
3) Become a productive member of your community and do some volunteer work
4) Take a meaningless job to at least earn some cash, since you'll be flat broke for the next 3 years!
5) Read some prep books (Law School Confidential, Getting to Maybe, etc.) and do the sample briefs and outlines

You'll be hard pressed to find much sympathy for simply being bored with no idea how to occupy yourself through the summer.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Ex-cons in law school
« on: July 15, 2009, 10:34:11 AM »
What I want to know is why he got into law school and was then denied a license to practice for several years because of his criminal history.  Do law schools really admit someone who they know will almost certainly be denied a license?   

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Misdemeanor - Expunged question???
« on: July 15, 2009, 08:39:57 AM »
IANAL, yet, :) but I was under the impression that expunged meant just that.  Legally it never happened.  If you were convicted of murder, but later had your record expunged, you could legally answer "No" to the question, "Have you ever been convicted of murder?".

Is this wrong?

YES that's wrong!!  I used to work in a private investigator's office doing background checks.  Even if you're simply applying for a job, the background check will find it.  It generally remains in the computer, and it certainly remains in the hard file.  It will ALWAYS be there.  Even if you weren't asked specifically about expunged convictions, you need to disclose.  I would tell the school NOW.  At least you can still say that your attorney advised you not to disclose it, but when the dean asked about it, you felt the need to disclose.  It WILL show up when you take the bar, and then you'll be screwed for not disclosing.  The lie is always worse than the crime.

Has anybody gone to a law school prep course?  My school keeps sending me these notices stressing how important it is to go to this week-long "prep" course to go over what it takes to be successful in law school.  I've been reading the prep books - Law School Confidential, Getting to Maybe, etc. - and it seems pretty straight forward.  Identify the facts and legal issues and apply the law.  But these notices are making me really anxious.  Has any body gone to one of these, and was it even helpful??  I'd have to take off my last week of work, losing my last week of income!

Bar Exam Preparation / Re: Illinois Character and Fitness
« on: June 25, 2009, 09:12:04 AM »
Slightly more serious offense - was charged with a city ordinance violation of shoplifting less than $20 (totally stupid, won't go into details).  It was 4 years ago and I disclosed everything on my law school app.  Will this prevent me from passing the C&F test??

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