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warning: listening to random people online who claims to be top whatever percent of their class can lead to miserable first year experience. Do study. Do prepare. Do whatever it takes to learn the law. Understand the structure of law school. Most of the advice people give are 'common sense' that you already know, but won't help you at all once you get to law school, this is because law school demands many things from you that you might not have. Understanding this can take a long time, especially for those who are stubborn about their approach. Be humble, but be smart and selective about what you listen to. Don't listen to trashy advice. That's deadly.

Current Law Students / Someone please help
« on: February 03, 2010, 11:41:24 PM »
Here is my situation: our school (2nd tier private school) has a grading policy that requires professors to give out C- or below to 8~12 percent of 1st year students. I see this is not the case with some schools(some schools dont require professors to give out any C-'s) Students at my school have better LSAT scores and GPA's(median is 3.5/163) than some of the other lower ranked school that has 0 attrition(no one was dismissed from these schools for academic reasons) whereas other schools(like mine) are highly ranked and have better students, but due to academic policy, many students fail out or leave school on their own. Can you explain why this is so? Does this mean if a student who dropped out from my school went to those schools without any attrition, he would have passed? Why would schools like U of North Dakota or U of Kansas (no offense to student at these schools) have 0 percent academic attrition and our schools has like 40 students dropping out every year? This seems so unfair, esepecially given that students at my school pay so much more money and have better stats .

Current Law Students / Re: UF 2L Taking Questions
« on: January 23, 2010, 06:39:17 PM »
Do you know about the grading policy UF has? Do professors who teach the first year courses have to give out C-'s to a certain percentage of the students?

what do you mean you are not sure if you are full time or not? Are you taking all the necessary courses 1L's are taking right now? Basically if your CUMULATIVE GPA is lower than 2.0 after 1 year of law school, they will kick you out and you won't be able to reapply to law schools for the next 2 years. I'm in a similar situation. My GPA is 1.6 after the first semester and I'm wondering if I should continue or not. Which school do you go to? I feel like I became a victim of a private school with mandatory curve(for my school, the professors have to give out C- or below to the 8~12 percent of the first year students, no offense to all the students who have better grades because they worked hard) I'm wondering if this is the case with public schools.

Law school is hard for everyone, that is an obvious point. But I personally feel very worried about failing out(as we all know private schools that are not top 30 do have some attrition, the number going up as the ranking goes down) and this adds a LOT more stress. Do any of you ever feel stressed about this? Also, do you think it is a better(safer) strategy for a person like me to have gone to a public school where they have almost no attrition? I realized there were some schools(like university of utah, SUNY buffalo) that are not very high ranked but have decent tuition and almost 0 percent attrition rate. Also, let's say I am at the bottom 5 percent at a top 50 private law school and due to the curve, I am academically disqualified. Does this mean if I have gone to a school where there is no student failing out, I am likely to pass? I would really appreciate any thoughtful insight from law students or lawyers who know about these matters. Thanks in advance.

can you offer some constructive advice on how to do well on law school exams?

I studied a ton for my final and I feel like I miserably failed it. I did write a lot on the essay part but for some of the short answer questions, I had no f-ing clue what they were about. Im just hoping the curve is going to save me. Law school exams suck big time.

Current Law Students / What does a model answer look like?
« on: November 09, 2009, 10:42:43 AM »
 Just got back my midterm and I was really disappointed about how bad I did on it. I still do not understand why. I feel like I still dont know what exactly my teacher wanted to see. Since it was only an hour long test, I was very pressured and probably wrote very wordy because I felt like I had to write something down. My question to you who did well in your first year is, what does a model answer look like? Do you have to IRAC every essay question? How long do you have to write for each part of the IRAC process? Would one or two sentences for rule be enough? I am so clueless. Please help me out. Thanks for any advice in advance.
p.s. I just feel like the amount of info I have to study is so overwhelming, but I also realize you can only write so much in one hour, so there has to be somethings the teacher really wanted to see, which means we didnt really have to memorize everything we learned or read. I just dont know what those are...

Current Law Students / Re: questions for 2Ls and 3Ls
« on: October 02, 2009, 08:22:23 PM »
Thank you so much for the advice. That is exactly how I feel whenever I am in class. Are you a 2L? I just feel like I don't learn much from classes(except this one class with my favorite professor who is really good at making everything so clear). Like you said, I really don't care what the other 1Ls have to say because most of the time, they just make up stuff that are not very related to the actual law (and some of them are just idiots who still didn't get over their own ego).

Current Law Students / Re: questions for 2Ls and 3Ls
« on: October 01, 2009, 07:20:42 PM »
Thanks for the advice. I felt like I was lost for the first 3 weeks before I started reading my supplements. Now that I spent the last 2 weeks trying to read supplements only, now I am very behind in my readings(but a lot of concepts are much more clear now). I just wish someone could have told me to read supplements before the semester started. That way I could get the big picture first and then read through casebooks. For personal reasons, I do not have to graduate at the top of my class to get a job, as most people on this board are trying to do. I just need the degree, that is all I want. (and of course, learn the law)

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