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Current Law Students / Re: Overwhelmed - Seeking Advice
« on: April 03, 2010, 08:27:32 PM »
I think a lot of kids act like that because they still didn't fully understand the difference between law school and college. Many just assume that professors will spoonfeed them all the things they need to learn.
To Thane: what is your opinion about schools with high attrition rate? Some of the newly ABA-approved schools have ridiculously high rate, some 30~40 percent of their first year class. How do you explain then the smaller, less well-known state schools that have very low attrition rate? I am really curious what you think about these matters.

Current Law Students / Re: Memo Grading
« on: March 12, 2010, 07:46:52 PM »
What grade did you get? I know at my school professors are supposed to give out C-'s or below to about 10 percent of first year class. That's the rule. The funny thing is, professor really don't want to give C-'s to ANYONE. They know that law is hard and people need time to study and improve eventually, but school policy is set that way so that they will rank higher. For instance, I received a C- from a class that I thought I totally failed,(left almost half of the test clean, untouched). Really, I should have failed that test, but the professor gave me a C-(which COULD have been a C, a passable grade in many other schools with more lenient curve). It really is unfair that someone has to get the bad grade. I wouldn't worry too much about it unless your grade fell below 2.0 like how mine did, but still, it is unfair that some schools almost never fail out any students because their policy is much more lenient. People tend to justify such rules by saying, 'oh well, even if you pass with 2.0, you still won't pass the bar' I think this is total BS. How then do you justify lower ranked public schools that have 95 bar pass rate (and fails out nobody) as opposed to 2nd tier private schools that have 10 percent attrition rate due to their policy and still can't manage to keep their bar passage rate over 80 percent?

warning: listening to random people online who claims to be top whatever percent of their class can lead to miserable first year experience. Do study. Do prepare. Do whatever it takes to learn the law. Understand the structure of law school. Most of the advice people give are 'common sense' that you already know, but won't help you at all once you get to law school, this is because law school demands many things from you that you might not have. Understanding this can take a long time, especially for those who are stubborn about their approach. Be humble, but be smart and selective about what you listen to. Don't listen to trashy advice. That's deadly.

Current Law Students / Someone please help
« on: February 04, 2010, 12:41:24 AM »
Here is my situation: our school (2nd tier private school) has a grading policy that requires professors to give out C- or below to 8~12 percent of 1st year students. I see this is not the case with some schools(some schools dont require professors to give out any C-'s) Students at my school have better LSAT scores and GPA's(median is 3.5/163) than some of the other lower ranked school that has 0 attrition(no one was dismissed from these schools for academic reasons) whereas other schools(like mine) are highly ranked and have better students, but due to academic policy, many students fail out or leave school on their own. Can you explain why this is so? Does this mean if a student who dropped out from my school went to those schools without any attrition, he would have passed? Why would schools like U of North Dakota or U of Kansas (no offense to student at these schools) have 0 percent academic attrition and our schools has like 40 students dropping out every year? This seems so unfair, esepecially given that students at my school pay so much more money and have better stats .

Current Law Students / Re: UF 2L Taking Questions
« on: January 23, 2010, 07:39:17 PM »
Do you know about the grading policy UF has? Do professors who teach the first year courses have to give out C-'s to a certain percentage of the students?

what do you mean you are not sure if you are full time or not? Are you taking all the necessary courses 1L's are taking right now? Basically if your CUMULATIVE GPA is lower than 2.0 after 1 year of law school, they will kick you out and you won't be able to reapply to law schools for the next 2 years. I'm in a similar situation. My GPA is 1.6 after the first semester and I'm wondering if I should continue or not. Which school do you go to? I feel like I became a victim of a private school with mandatory curve(for my school, the professors have to give out C- or below to the 8~12 percent of the first year students, no offense to all the students who have better grades because they worked hard) I'm wondering if this is the case with public schools.

Law school is hard for everyone, that is an obvious point. But I personally feel very worried about failing out(as we all know private schools that are not top 30 do have some attrition, the number going up as the ranking goes down) and this adds a LOT more stress. Do any of you ever feel stressed about this? Also, do you think it is a better(safer) strategy for a person like me to have gone to a public school where they have almost no attrition? I realized there were some schools(like university of utah, SUNY buffalo) that are not very high ranked but have decent tuition and almost 0 percent attrition rate. Also, let's say I am at the bottom 5 percent at a top 50 private law school and due to the curve, I am academically disqualified. Does this mean if I have gone to a school where there is no student failing out, I am likely to pass? I would really appreciate any thoughtful insight from law students or lawyers who know about these matters. Thanks in advance.

can you offer some constructive advice on how to do well on law school exams?

I studied a ton for my final and I feel like I miserably failed it. I did write a lot on the essay part but for some of the short answer questions, I had no f-ing clue what they were about. Im just hoping the curve is going to save me. Law school exams suck big time.

Current Law Students / What does a model answer look like?
« on: November 09, 2009, 11:42:43 AM »
 Just got back my midterm and I was really disappointed about how bad I did on it. I still do not understand why. I feel like I still dont know what exactly my teacher wanted to see. Since it was only an hour long test, I was very pressured and probably wrote very wordy because I felt like I had to write something down. My question to you who did well in your first year is, what does a model answer look like? Do you have to IRAC every essay question? How long do you have to write for each part of the IRAC process? Would one or two sentences for rule be enough? I am so clueless. Please help me out. Thanks for any advice in advance.
p.s. I just feel like the amount of info I have to study is so overwhelming, but I also realize you can only write so much in one hour, so there has to be somethings the teacher really wanted to see, which means we didnt really have to memorize everything we learned or read. I just dont know what those are...

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