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General Board / Re: Cuz I'm Curious
« on: August 22, 2009, 03:37:39 PM »
So, the short version = if you want to be a real lawyer you need to go to a T5, or do above median at a T14. Otherwise you're a glorified paralegal?

I'm not going to take issue with that suggestion, but will ask yet another question: exactly how do they (the law school collective) attract 40,000 new matriculants (or more) each year?

There are plenty of people in the t5 that are unhappy, so I don't think going to a better school will necessarily make things any better. This is the worst the legal economy has been since the 1970s and what was biglaw in 2007 is probably never going to be around anymore.

My Prediction:
Yale students in general are fine because so many of them do clerkships, and a TON do SCOTUS clerkships. Harvard will do clerkships and take up basically all the jobs that are out there biglaw. Stanford will come in and swoop what's left and also clerk.

Everyone else- completely screwed. Even clerkships are going to be really tough to crack now because everyone is going to want to do them, including students that traditionally might have wanted to just go work biglaw straight out of law school and not do a clerkship at all.

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General Board / Re: Cuz I'm Curious
« on: August 19, 2009, 07:29:14 PM »
If you wind up with bottom 75% of the class grades from a T10, big law is not in your future.

Fixed to account for the current economy.

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General Board / Re: Worth it/not too late to mass-mail law firms?
« on: August 17, 2009, 09:41:15 PM »
DC will be a really tough market to crack this year. Is it worth it to mass-mail? I don't see why not, only thing you'll be out is your time if you email. It probably wouldn't have been worth wasting bids on but I don't see the harm in mass-mailing.

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General Board / Re: Average number of OCI interviews?
« on: August 17, 2009, 09:37:46 PM »
Yes, but I've been reading too much autoadmit so I'm starting to think that top 5% at my T14 (lower end of T14) means out of luck in this economy.

I think your biggest problem is that you are taking anyone on xoxo seriously. Top 5% at a t14 is far from out of luck in this economy. Students at top schools are definitely taking a big hit, and people at the median or below it are not likely going to get offers like they would have last year. But my prediction is that top of the class (top 10% or so) will have many choices and top 25% will receive offers but from lower ranking firms on vault, and also not as nearly as many offers as they might have in a better economy (e.g. top 25% might get 1-2 offers, whereas top 10% might get 7 or -8-).

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General Board / Re: 3rd year of LS = unnecessary?
« on: August 16, 2009, 11:21:04 PM »
I think some law schools are evolving, when you consider the fact that schools like Northwestern, Dayton, and Southwestern have two-year (accelerated) program models.  These models are centered around the idea that the traditional third-year is not necessary.

I only know about NU, but their program is actually 3 years worth of work in 2 years (i.e. it includes 2 summers but starts early to allow for 2L SAs).

Yeah. Is that problematic?

Not at all. It's actually a great program and I think more schools should do something like this. I was just trying to point out that its far from a walk in the park 2 years like a true 2 year program (since you are actually completing around 90 credits in that time frame instead of the typical 60).

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General Board / Re: 3rd year of LS = unnecessary?
« on: August 13, 2009, 09:19:55 AM »
I think some law schools are evolving, when you consider the fact that schools like Northwestern, Dayton, and Southwestern have two-year (accelerated) program models.  These models are centered around the idea that the traditional third-year is not necessary.

I only know about NU, but their program is actually 3 years worth of work in 2 years (i.e. it includes 2 summers but starts early to allow for 2L SAs).

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General Board / Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
« on: August 13, 2009, 04:28:16 AM »
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Is WUSTL still T20?


I can't believe even WUSTL only has 8 vault firms at its OCI.  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAH. Wow. WUSTL truly is a TTT.

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General Board / Re: 3rd year of LS = unnecessary?
« on: August 13, 2009, 04:20:40 AM »
Coming for prof's mouth from summer school (who went to Columbia and was a biglaw partner for years until he decided to "retire):
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As you will all soon realize, the last 2 years of law school serve no purpose whatsoever besides being an entry barrier for the legal profession. After your first year you are as much trained to be a lawyer as you will be when you pass the bar.

This is really true though if you think about it. If law school were just one or two years a lot more people would look into it and the lofty salaries that lawyers earn would be nonexistent.

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If you were an engineering or hard sciences UG and now are pursuing IP, then it probably matters a bit. Otherwise, no it doesn't add anything. One nice thing about going to grad school for most of us is that we can go to the worst accredited school possible for UG, save a ton of money, do very little work to get great grades, get a degree, and then go to a grad school and it matters none. Overall there's probably more people like me that went to a bad UG then people like you that went to Penn for UG though.

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Transferring / Re: T4 to T1 transfer
« on: August 10, 2009, 11:52:43 AM »
Maybe its 10 posts per page??

EDIT- yup, my original post is finally back up on page 2. Someone really should fix forum.

Yes, there are 10 posts per page, and I never saw your original post disappear

It went away when big fat box posted, and then came back up once I got to page 3. People were posting this problem on the Cooley to MSU thread as well.

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