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Transferring / Re: Hopeful HYS Transfer
« on: April 25, 2010, 09:54:24 AM »
Iím currently a 1L at the lower end of a T100 school. I could have enrolled at a T30, but I chose not to because it was cheaper to go to a lower ranked school for 1 year. Retrospectively, I donít know if this was the best decision because I always intended to transfer out, but Iím hoping the large jump isnít going to come back to bite me now. I went to Yale as an undergraduate and Iím hoping to transfer back to there, but any of HYS will be great of course. I donít have official numbers, but Iím guessing my 1st semester grades put me near the top of my class, probably in the top 1-3%. I have a few decent softs. My general question would be, what are the chances of pulling this off?

Getting to the nitty-gritty, I need to approach my professors for letters of rec. One of them happens to be an alumnus from Yale Law, so we share the same alma mater. How should I approach and explain to them my goals of transferring? Should I mention which school I really want to transfer to (HYS) or would they construe that as being pretentious, even though I do have genuine reasons in addition to the obvious better job-finding-potential for picking these schools? Is it better for them to submit letters through LSAC or have them individually tailor it to the schools and submit it directly?

Also, what would be the best way to frame my personal statement for HYS, especially Yale since I did my undergraduate there? Does previously attending the school give me an advantage in the transfer decisions?

Lastly, I know transfer admissions are on a rolling basis, but does it affect my chances whether I submit mine earlier or later in the process? I feel that if I turn it in later, more spots will have been filled which would reduce my chances.

Greatly appreciate your thoughts.

I really hate to shatter your bubble, but your odds are not very good at all. Not because your grades aren't good but because HYS typically don't take students from such low ranked schools. I've heard of t30 -- > HYS transfers, but not really much lower then that barring some serious credentials (besides grades). If you were top 1% at a t30 your odds would have been much better. Why didn't you EA to UChicago? You would have had a good shot at that. I'd say definitely apply to CCN but I think it's less of a lock then had you EA'd at UChi.

Also, I mentioned this on the other "transfer stats to HLS" thread, but the fact that you could have attended a t30 is not going to help you. Contrary to popular belief, I'm fairly sure that Harvard does not consider UGPA/LSAT for transfer admissions. If you look at their website again you'll notice is says that the typical transfer student is one that might have been accepted as a 1L, but that's not the same thing as saying that they consider LSAT/UGPA in their decision.

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Transferring / Re: Transfer stats to HLS?
« on: April 25, 2010, 09:46:02 AM »
I was waitlisted in the regular cycle last year...

Why do you think that Harvard will even consider your UGPA/LSAT? That's not what their website says... It says that students that typically transfer into HLS are students that might have been admitted anyway. That is not the same as saying that UGPA/LSAT are factors in their decision. Based on the data points I have seen for HLS transfers, I am pretty sure that they do not consider UGPA/LSAT. In all reality it makes no sense for them to look at UGPA/LSAT because those are used to predict your 1st semester law school grades. You have REAL law school grades, so it doesn't make a lot of sense to use your UGPA/LSAT.

However, I really have no idea what your odds are for transferring to HLS. You already go to a t6 school so that should help, but I think you are still going to need to be at least in the top 15% or so (I know top 10% gives you a shot from the t14 generally). Good luck.

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General Board / Re: Is law school worth it?- Freaked Out!
« on: April 25, 2010, 09:39:35 AM »
You guys realize the OP was from over 2 months ago and that the person who posted probbaly stopped reading this thread 1.9 months ago, right? Anyway, I think bikepilot summed everything up in his post.

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This book is so retarded. You can get the same information in a much more concise fashion by reading Arrow's post on TLS. No idea why anyone in his/her right mind would buy this book.

Not to mention- didn't this guy transfer TO UF (or something well outside the t14)? He doesn't sound like much of an expert on the "art of transferring" at all considering his transfer school is a toilet.

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General Board / Re: POLL - Better career earnings - MBA or JD ?
« on: April 09, 2010, 03:02:02 AM »
Possibly, but not necessarily. The thing with a business degree, such as a MBA, is that there is so much that you can potentially do. It pretty much opens you up to any job in corporate america (not that you are qualified for any job in corporate america, but it's a possibility), whereas with a JD you are limited to the legal profession (so fewer jobs to pick from). To some extent your options are more limited after you already settled into a specific field for a 4-5 years but even then there is a LOT of possibilities from in that field (e.g. if you work as a financial analyst at Cisco, it doesn't mean you won't find work as a financial analyst in some completely different industry).


Yeah, never heard of a guy with a MBA being laid off huh? ::)
Truth be told, your better off to be laid off with a JD than an MBA.


An MBA is like a GED anyone and their uncle can get one, and there is zero license requirment for it, thus if your boss wanted to replace you with his dropout niece just becuase he felt like it then he could and would. If you have a JD you have to pass the bar and that gives you job security. If you want an MBA then get a joint degree. Most schools have that option.

LOL. Tell that to the flood of laid off biglaw associates in the market right now.

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General Board / Re: Why does everyone think 1L is so hard?
« on: April 08, 2010, 09:15:12 PM »
Why does everyone think 1L is so hard? I aced my midterms and all my practice exams for the final, why does everyone make so a huge deal of it?


Julie, would you care to help out here?

ok.  listen, forrest, you only one making big deal--about your alleged intellect.  that always mean small weenie.



How do you wind up with 26498 posts  :o on a forum that's deader than Micheal Jackson?

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General Board / Re: POLL - Better career earnings - MBA or JD ?
« on: April 08, 2010, 09:11:59 PM »
An MBA is like a GED anyone and their uncle can get one, and there is zero license requirment for it, thus if your boss wanted to replace you with his dropout niece just becuase he felt like it then he could and would. If you have a JD you have to pass the bar and that gives you job security. If you want an MBA then get a joint degree. Most schools have that option.

LOL. Tell that to the flood of laid off biglaw associates in the market right now.

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General Board / Re: Doors open more graduating from Toledo or MSU?
« on: April 06, 2010, 11:26:20 PM »
Would my job prospects be better graduating from Toledo or MSU for working in the Midwest? (I will be paying full price for both; still have Indiana-Indy pending and a few others, but can't wait because seat deposits are due very soon).

LOL.

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General Board / Re: POLL - Better career earnings - MBA or JD ?
« on: April 06, 2010, 11:25:12 PM »
It depends on what you want to do with your life. A degree only gets you that first job. What you do thereafter is up to you.

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