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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Real Thing vs. Practice
« on: April 11, 2004, 03:02:35 PM »
I would recommend looking into practice LSATs administered by the various test-prep companies.  Where I live (Austin, TX), every couple of weeks either Kaplan or Princeton Review will put on a free, proctored LSAT at 9 in the morning.  It's great because you get a real test atmosphere, and they do have a full 5 sections.  I get a lot of the information about when they are doing these tests from my pre-law fraternity, but I imagine if you have a test-prep office nearby, you could stop in one day and pick up a schedule.  Hope that helps.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Test-Prep LSATs v. Real LSATs
« on: April 11, 2004, 03:42:50 AM »
Well, if it's just the games that are harder, that is good news; I find I can improve on the games through practice (as opposed to the you-either-got-it-or-don't of LR and CR).  I guess it's time to invest in the PowerScore Logic Games Bible...

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Test-Prep LSATs v. Real LSATs
« on: April 11, 2004, 01:15:17 AM »
Thanks for the response, that was my suspicion.  However, it might be worth noting that I also have the "10 More Official LSATs" book and have taken three tests out of it.  The first one was the first LSAT I had ever taken, and I got a 168 on it.  I then took the next two and scored around 177.  I didn't want to run out of recent tests, so I went and got the older book and have been exclusively practicing from it for awhile.  However, I just noticed that they have another volume coming out April 30, so I'll probably go back to the second book now that I'm not in any danger of running out of material.  My current plan is to take the June LSAT.  I am relieved to hear that you were getting scores similar to mine and ended up with a 175.

Out of interest, while I wait for the arrival of more recent tests, how are they "much more difficult"?  Are the overall questions harder or just the games?  Also, is the harder difficulty accounted for by a change in the grade scale?  Or are they essentially at the same 100-101 raw = 180?  In other words, when you switched from the older tests to the newer, did you have to "step up" your performance level to attain that same high score?

Studying for the LSAT / Test-Prep LSATs v. Real LSATs
« on: April 10, 2004, 06:18:19 PM »
I've been taking practice LSATs out of the "10 Actual, Official LSATs" book and have been scoring very well.  However, I have also taken practice LSATs offered by the Princeton Review and Kaplan and have scored significantly lower (see below for specific details).  I am thinking there are two possible explanations for this, and I was wondering if anyone had any insight on which is correct:

1)  The Princeton/Kaplan tests are substantially more difficult than normal tests; this is to scare students so that when they get their grades back, they are more likely to sign up for the prep-courses.  Then when they take an actual LSAT, and their grade increases, Princeton/Kaplan can say "look how much you improved from our course!"

2)  The practice tests in the "10 Actual, Official LSAT" book are from the early 90s; the LSAT has gotten significantly more difficult in the 10 years since then.  The Princeton/Kaplan tests reflect this increase in dfficulty, while my outdated practice tests do not.

Anyone have any ideas about this?

Also, for the curious here are my exact scores:

First 4 prep-tests in LSAT book - 180, 175, 171, 175, 176 (the 171 happened at the end of a long week, when I hadn't gotten much sleep, and I made many careless errors).

Kaplan/Princeton tests - 169, 169

Law School Applications / Re: Beautiful Campuses
« on: April 10, 2004, 05:16:18 PM »
Over Christmas break, I took a 5 law school tour: Columbia, New York University, Georgetown, George Washington, and University of Virginia.  The one that most impressed me was UVA; the main campus is absolutely gorgeous and the law facilities were wonderful.

Someone above mentioned NYU, but personally I found the place too austere.  However, I must admit that I arrived after 7 o'clock, everyone was gone for the day, and they weren't conducting any tours.  It is much harder to think of a school as an organic, vibrant environment when it's empty.

The law facilities at Columbia were awesome, but the campus itself was not particularly impressive to me.  George Washington and Georgetown have virtually no campuses, they are basically just a couple of buildings in the middle of downtown Washington, D.C.

Back when I was visiting undergrad schools, Stanford completely blew me away.  I was mainly visiting the engineering facilities, so I don't specifically remember the law buildings, but the whole place was like a luxury resort.

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