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Incoming 1Ls / Schools that take cash and RUN!
« on: May 12, 2009, 02:55:23 PM »
Someone pointed out to me that there are ABA schools mostly 4th tier that accept people they think WILL FLUNK OUT just to collect the dollars that drive the machine. How true is this?

Law School Admissions / GPA calculation
« on: May 12, 2009, 05:18:59 AM »
I went to 3 diff undergrad schools. How does LSDAS calculate GPA? By going through every single class from each school or just taking the degree granting school GPA.


Politics and Law-Related News / Re: Can anyone confirm on this? :)
« on: May 11, 2009, 02:56:07 PM »
so, you saying they attractive?

Julie, I took LSD once....I saw GOD......LOL had to throw that in...

Profile: 2.01 UGPA, 3.9 MBA, 170 LSAT, 30 Years Old (ECON major at top 15 undergrad business program, FIN/ECON at a very good but not great MBA program). Also I haven't taken the LSAT yet but have been getting 170-175 on the actual exams.

Professional: Worked with three companies and been promoted with each one: successful in roles trading securities/options, as a financial analyst, and VP Finance at an early stage internet/technology company. Plan to attain CPA designation before admission to law school.

Arrest Record: 2 DUIs, 1 misdemeanor possession of marijuana. No arrests in last 7 years.

Obviously I didn't get off on the right foot in college and my early twenties, and will have to craft my personal statement to reflect that. I really want to study corporate/securities law, and to a lesser extent international law, and get the J.D. Does anyone have any advice about what schools I should target (either a range based on ranking/selectivity, or specific schools where non-traditional applicants tend to fair well)?

My plan as of now is to apply to a ton of schools, maybe 30, simply because I have no idea where I fit in due to the extremity of my undergrad GPA and my arrest record.

So where can I get in? any thoughts? any non-traditionals that can share some advice for me?


Go for it....heck, I am 47 and am working on a MS but have always wanted to go to law school and then practice. I said to myself, if things go right, I will be 50 when I graduate, then I said how old will I be if I dont go to law school in 3 years. Same answer. My undergrad GPA was horrible at one institution, stellar at another, and mediocre from my degree granting institution (UMW). Hey, its the sister school of UVA! I live in the DC area so my choices are many. Its going to depend on my LSAT score which I will take in September. I am studying right now each day. Analytical Reasoning is tough, but Logical and Reading Comprehension I do good in.Am I willing to go long distance to law schools that I know I would be accepted in? Not sure. Right now its a step at a time, but I am progressing. Good luck! PS  Easy on the drinking LOL...

Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT Readiness --- I am making progress
« on: May 11, 2009, 02:18:09 PM »
I have been intensively studying for my LSAT with Powerscore bibles. I jumped from a 137 to a 142 to a 147. I am signed up to take the June 2009 LSAT. Which means I have roughly a month to get to my goal LSAT score which is like 157. Do any of you all see my goal as realistic?


I "goggled" the LSAT score of 155. People on many forums spoke about that score like it was HORRIBLE. Why is a 155 thought of as being a BAD score?  I mean I am hopping to get in William and Mary with a 157 or higher and a pretty high gpa. I have a 147 as of is that supposed to make me feel?

Someone posted and after I looked at some of the GOD AWFUL scores and GPA's that schools accept, I feel alot better about my chances. I will be taking my first practice exam tomorrow, and will let you know how I score. I am taking the Sep 2009 LSAT.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Help me understand.....
« on: May 11, 2009, 02:01:42 PM »
Sounds a lot like People's College of Law...

I'm guessing that it is their way of saying minorities.  General rule of thumb, though- if you were to talk to 10 people on the street and less than two of them would have heard of the school, you should probably stay away.  I would probably be wary of David A. Clarke School of Law... there are a lot of schools out there with the only purpose to eat up your money.  Then again, some could argue there that is the purpose of all law schools. 8)

Yes actually it is UDC(formerly Antioch College of Law). Its very convenient though for me (a non trad student in his 40's) just by geographical location. I am not one to waste an app at say Gtown, GWU, or AU....unless I aced the LSAT. Catholic U is also on my list though. Thanks for replying!

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Help me understand.....
« on: May 11, 2009, 01:55:28 PM »
Stay away from People's College of Law.  For the sake of humanity and all things right, stay away.

LOL no its not People's College of Law, but I have to tell you I was amazed when I looked up that school (it rejects the LSAT)....this is from an approved ABA school. I just dont understand what "denied access" meant...

Incoming 1Ls / Help me understand.....
« on: May 11, 2009, 12:03:43 PM »
This is one schools philosphy...
The School of Law seeks to enroll academically qualified students who have demonstrated a commitment to public service and who are from communities that have been historically denied access to the bar.  The student body comes from a broad spectrum of society. The entering classes are as diverse in background and life experience as they are in ethnicity, gender, and age.

"The Admission Committee reviews academic credentials and admits only those who it believes will successfully complete the three-year program. Because the School of Law's mission is to admit and educate those who have been denied access to the bar, and who have demonstrated commitment to public service, the Committee's decisions are based on academic and non-academic criteria. The non-academic criteria include employment history; community service and volunteer work; family and educational background; family responsibilities; and recommendations that speak to the candidate's professional promise, judgment, integrity, character, skills, and leadership potential."

Forgive my naivety, but what exactly constitutes "those who have been denied access to the bar".....thanks

Ok I have registered with the LSAC...and have both academic references entered into LSAC. I am sending the transcript requests this week (I went to 3 different undergrad schools). Next on my list is to register for the Sep LSAT. Am applying to UDC, UBALT, APP ST, GMU and URich as of right now. The rest depend on how well I do on the LSAT. I am in my 40's so I am not sure how the non traditional aspect will apply. Any advice here would be great thanks......

See you at Michigan!

What the eff, Tetris? You can't go preaching that Cornell is your first choice and then just dump it by the wayside for the likes of UMich. Can you?   ???

I am surprised not to read a post that says something of the following...
"HI I dropped out of community college and got a 122 on the LSAT. What do I gotta do to get into an IVY LEAGUE LAW SCHOOL??"" LOL LOL

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