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Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: Is it too late!!!
« on: November 13, 2009, 02:16:06 PM »
Well I am sick of putting this off....paid the 198 dollars which included the 66 dollar late fee and found a seat in the college up the street to take the Dec LSAT. My reading skills are suspect, my analytical and logical reasoning arent much better, my writing is horrible and I am 47. Damn the torpedoes......FULL SPEED AHEAD!!!

Law School Admissions / Re: 2.6 GPA/157 LSAT..please help!
« on: November 12, 2009, 02:54:20 PM »
I have a 2.6 UGPA and a 157 on the LSAT. I am looking very hard at U Houston. I like the classes and the info they have given me thus far (I realize their facilities are less than stellar.) With a 2.6 UGPA and 154-157 LSAT is there any chance of being admitted to the part-time program at Houston Law?

Thanks for the advice.

I am in the same boat, havent taken the LSAT test yet. I may register tomorrow last second, or wait until the Feb test. As a non traditional student, with a 150 or above, you will get in somewhere. May not be Houston, but trust me, you can get in to a law school. Hopefully I can get into UDC because I dont want to travel out of state. I d have to score a 170 plus to even consider GWU or American. I am realistic too. I figure I will score mid 150;s....good luck

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: Is it too late!!!
« on: November 11, 2009, 07:26:57 AM »
Yes, I decided to go to law school just in the last week, long story.  A little background: I'm 51, graduated from med school in '84, practiced until '93 when I decided to stay home with the kids.  Going through a divorce and see this as a great time to get a fresh start on life. Don't want to practice medicine, but rather do advocacy work.  Kaplan starts a course on 11/8, and I still have time for late registration for the Dec LSAT. Since I'm not working, can devote lots of time to study.  Kids will graduate from college may 2010.

thanks for any feedback

Absolutely not! I am 47 and am taking the Feb 2010 test. My undergrad GPA wasnt the best, but I know scoring a 150 or better locks me into law school. At this stage I really dont care what type of school I get into as long as it is in the DC area. I wont get into Gtown or GWU, but perhaps Catholic, GMU, or UDC. I just want to get in, graduate, pass the bar, and take cases. We have NOTHING to lose. If I have to, I will venture out to Appalachian which is in Lundy VA. Bottom line, its never too late and some law schools will accept you based on your age to market the older non trad student for the future! Best of luck.....Kevin

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Does client have a case?
« on: May 17, 2009, 01:24:07 PM »
The answer is "it depends."  The injured party should consult a lawyer.

At a minimum, the following issues will arise:

1.  Is the injured party an invitee, licensee, or trespasser?  Most likely the guest is an invitee, and thus the hotel owed the injured party a reasonable duty of care.

2.  Is it unreasonable to have a smoking area near a bar with a 20-foot drop and no fence (and presumably no railing)?  It is probably unreasonable to do so. (Also might want to check building codes to see if the resort owner was negligent per se).

3.  Was the injured party comparatively or contributorily negligent?  If so, depending on lex loci, the resort's liability might be limited.

No injured was a unregistered bar patron. He was not staying there....

Incoming 1Ls / Does client have a case?
« on: May 17, 2009, 11:40:45 AM »
Hope this is ok for this board as I searched for general discussion. I was asked this question and stated I'd put it out for replies...

Gentleman wakes up in the morning and commences drinking (7:00 AM). At 9 AM he calls friend who picks him up and they go out driving and he continues to indulge. They arrive at a resort (to be left nameless, a very plush and well known resort btw) and as an unregistered guest makes his way to the pool bar for guests only. He then drinks for another 30 minutes and goes to the smoking area which is by the ocean on a 20 foot cliff with no fence. Somehow he loses balances and falls bouncing off rocks and into the ocean. He is brought to shore by a surfer and is treated for cuts by a local ambulance but refuses to go to the hospital. He then gets a ride home where he finally calls an ambulance and goes to the hospital and has his injuries treated.No broken bones but monster scrapes and coral scratches. Hospital loads him up with demoral fentanyl and toradol and releases him to a local cab company with a diagnosis of acute alcohol intoxication. Is the hotel liable for the injuries suffered from the fall??

I was just admitted here and I have been planning on going to MSU, but seeing how much cheaper FIU will be has me interested.  I still don't know very much about the school and I wondered if anyone had visited or knew anything about the school.  The internet seems to have very mixed reviews and I would just like the opinion of anyone who is attending or visited the school. 

FIU is definitely on the map now athletic wise. It is getting alot of attention because they just hired Isaiah Thomas as their head basketball coach.

I read somewhere that you can apply to too many schools and that some schools look down on this.Is there a rule of thumb for law school applicants that are tier 3 and 4? In reviewing some of the website, I see people applying to a zillion schools and get rejected on a quite a few with numbers that should be able to back door them into an institution. Thanks for comments!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 3.3/164 accepted nowhere
« on: May 13, 2009, 12:06:51 PM »
I applied to all my schools late, about 2 weeks before deadline. I thought my numbers were enough to get in somewhere decent. I was rejected by UCLA, USC, Boalt (all understandable)........ but also by Loyola LA, Hastings, and Illinois-Champagne. If i wait to re-apply for class of 2013, and apply early (turn in apps first week they are accepted), would I get in to at least one of those above schools? Is turning in an application early REALLY that important?

I'd also consider the importance of which school I got into. I'd love to have those numbers you have. If being accepted into a top school is important, re apply, otherwise I am sure there are some great schools that will still accept you. Some have extended their deadline til May 15th.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Schools that take cash and RUN!
« on: May 12, 2009, 08:59:55 PM »
Roughly 18% of the 1L class at Cooley flunks out.

Thanks for that link. I found one school wit5h a 37% attrition rate first year!? I did not realize Cooley accepted nearly 75% of all apps either. What is that place, a law school haven for 4th tier applicants?


First of all, thank you in advance for any help or information you may be able to provide.

I have been working at a law firm the past 6 years and have decided to pursue law school for the 2010-2011 academic year. I studied Biology at my first university and left during my last quarter (without a degree) and a GPA around 2.70. Since leaving, I have been working as a consultant at a law firm/consultant company and doing very well in the industry. When I decided that law school was what I wanted to pursue, I enrolled as a transfer student at a new university and in the past year, I have a 3.9 GPA in Psychology. I am set to graduate after the summer and have started studying for the LSAT already. I am 30 years old and am very ambitious and want to pursue this goal head on.

I would like to try my hand at the more elite schools. While I realize the Ivy League schools may be out of reach, I want to get in the best school possible and have my sights set on schools such as Michigan, Duke & Boston College.

My question is, are these schools also out of reach? Assuming I knock the LSAT out of the park (which I believe I can), do law schools place much emphasis on students who don't do as well in college, but attend a bit later in life when they truly know what they want? Also, I assume the 6 years at a law firm with great reccomendations helps?

Again, thanks in advance for any answers you have.....I truly appreciate any thoughts you could lend.

I have found very informative. If you have a 2.7 undergraduate degree you may be wasting your time applying to Duke or UMich and tier 1 schools of this nature. Sure there is that one chance a blind man reviews your app. I am in the same situation as you, although I havent taken the LSAT yet, which obviously will tell much. I am going to apply to mostly tier 3 or 4 schools, unless I score 170 or above. I am 47 and have had a successful career in sales, but always wanted to be an attorney. My kids are all grown now, and I am going to go for it. I just want to get into an ABA law school, graduate and pass the bar. Not too hard a task huh? Seriously check out that website, you will be AMAZED at some of the numbers that get accepted. Good luck and let me know what your LSAT score turned out to be and I will too. 

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