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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: laptop
« on: June 17, 2006, 10:41:26 PM »
I almost just bought an m1210...I don't know, I hate that IBM pointer thing. I like touchpads better.

Do you REALLY need a laptop for law school?

Yes, haven't you watched Legally Blonde?

Yes but why do you need it? My friend is in medical school, he uses a pen and paper.

It doesn't matter, I just ordered it. I just hope I like it.

#1. First call your school, they will tell you if it's required or not.

#2. It seems as if it's pretty damn necessary, both for notes and for test-taking especially.

#3. Law School will probably be costing you quite a bit of money, maybe even up to $50k for the first year, the price of a laptop is small considering this.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: laptop
« on: June 17, 2006, 10:39:52 PM »
Why does no one consider the HPs?

i can get this one thru my Dad's work:

HP/Compaq n6220
Intel Pentium M 750 - 1.86Ghz
14.1 SXGA+ display
60GB HD (5400 rpm)
1024MB DDRII Ram (2 DIMMs)
DVD+RW drive
64MB integrated video
Intel 802.11
XP Pro
3 yr warranty
5.1 pounds

for $1,133

Will this be good enough for law school/the general internet, DVD watching usage?
Should I shop around or is this a good deal?

I never heard of them being that amazing, and that price is quite high.

I don't have my specs, but I can tell you they are much better, for one thing mine is dual-core, and I paid around $850 (Dell).

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: laptop
« on: June 16, 2006, 09:25:57 PM »
I just got my new laptop from Dell on Wednesday.  (I kinda don't like it
very much)

what model?  what don't you like?

E1505.  It just seems huge.  But I've been told 8 times since Wednesday that it's just me. 

It is a little big...although huge is probably a bit exagerated.  I got the E1405 and I love the size, but I don't think it's THAT much lighter than the 1505.
I would shoot for the 1405's size unless there's a specific reason you want the 1505 (price or video card/other hardware not available on the 1405).


Also, there are definately plenty of decent backpacks/bags that don't seem that huge that will hold the larger 1505 screen.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: laptop
« on: June 16, 2006, 09:23:51 PM »
Alright, the time has come to buy a crappy PC notebook that will last me for one year.  Can the techie people help me understand what some of this stuff is? 

And remember: I don't care about any bells and whistles. I simply want to take notes and exams, and check email.  It would be better if it died completely after a year, because then I won't hear it from my parents about buying the Macbook I really want (I'm waiting for Leopard before buying).

Therefore, I am considering this guy: Compaq/HP V2000Z (I guess Compaq and HP merged at some point, huh?)

Here are the options I don't know what to get:

Processor   

AMD Sempron(TM) 3100+ (1.8GHz/256KB L2 Cache)

AMD Sempron(TM) 3300+ (2.0GHz/128KB L2 Cache)
  Significantly improves system performance
    +$15.00
 
AMD Turion(TM) 64 ML-34 (1.8GHz/1MB L2 Cache)
  Exceptional performance, power, and reliability
    +$95.00
 

AMD Turion(TM) 64 ML-37 (2.0GHz/1MB L2 Cache)

Advanced performance and multitasking with most software applications
    +$145.00
 

Graphics Card   

ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M
ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M w/productivity ports

    +$25.00


Memory   

256MB DDR SDRAM (1x256MB)

    -$50.00
 

512MB DDR SDRAM (2x256MB)

    Included
in price
 
512MB DDR SDRAM (1x512MB)
Boosts overall system performance! An empty slot leaves room to upgrade in the future!
    +$25.00

 
 
1.0GB DDR SDRAM (2x512MB)
HP recommended for faster system performance when running multiple applications.
    +$75.00
 

1.0GB DDR SDRAM (1x1024MB)
HP recommended for faster system performance when running multiple applications
    +$150.00


Hard Drive   
 
40 GB 4200 RPM Hard Drive
   -$25.00
 
 
60 GB 4200 RPM Hard Drive
    Included
in price
 

80 GB 4200 RPM Hard Drive
+$25.00
 
80 GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive
A faster-spinning hard drive increases productivity
    +$40.00
 

 
100 GB 4200 RPM Hard Drive
Stores more applications, music, games, photos, movies
    +$75.00
 
 
120 GB 4200 RPM Hard Drive
    +$150.00

 
Primary CD/DVD Drive    
 
8X DVD Drive
    +$0.00
 
FREE Upgrade from DVD to DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive!!
Watch DVD movies and make your own music CDs (most CDs hold about 80 minutes' of music or 700MB of data)
    Included
in price

 
Super Multi 8X DVD+/-R/RW w/Double Layer Support
    +$50.00
 
 
LightScribe Super Multi 8X DVD+/-RW w/Double Layer
Label discs by burning silkscreen-quality graphics on them
    +$100.00


Networking   
 
Integrated 56K Modem + 10/100 Ethernet LAN
Included
in price
 
54g(TM) 802.11b/g WLAN w/ 125HSM/SpeedBooster(TM)
    +$25.00

54g(TM) Integ. Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN & Bluetooth
    +$44.00

 
 
Primary Battery   
6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    Included
in price
 
12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    +$39.00
 
Extra 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

Get two 6-cell batteries so that you'll always have a spare handy!
    +$99.00
 
 
Extra 12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

Get two 12-cell batteries so that you'll always have enough power!
    +$138.00
 
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It's $600 as I configured it, plus $150 for Microsoft Office... can you get that cheaper through a school, do you think?  And do you really need security software?
 

I would get the options that I underlined.  I recommend a 64 bit processor to future proof yourself, and aside from that the cache is much bigger.  The cache is where the computer stores information that is accessed frequently and you can improve performance ever so slightly by increasing that. 

I don't know what the productivity ports do.

The importance of RAM is huge.  I will not get any less than 1.5 GB in my computer, but if you plan to do primarily word processing you should be OK with 512 but I wouldn't go less than that.  That being said, I would not get 2X256 because if you want to upgrade there is no way without taking out a stick and replacing it.

An 80 GB HD is not that big anymore, and 5400 RPM is the bare minimum I would get.

You may want a CD-RW drive to transfer data.  Floppies are dead.

If you want wireless networking, you have to get a 802.11b/g card.  You can add it via PCMCIA but it will be slower and more expensive.  I recommend Bluetooth as well for newer wireless peripherals.

Battery, hmm...If you will be plugging in wherever you go, get the cheapest option.  If not, you have to figure out what balance of capacity vs weight and price works for you.

I'll disagree because he wants it very simple and very cheap.  The processor may be worth it, but probably not.
RAM, unless you buy more and install it yourself (this depends on how motivated and techie friendly you are) isn't worth upgrading (although I'd advise 1 GB RAM before the processor probably).
80 GB and the faster spinning is probably not worth it either, 60 GB should be fine unless you are downloading crazy movies etc.  Even whole books online won't be much more than a few hundred MB.
I think either a 12-cell battery, or an extra 12-cell battery (a little more but it means you will have 2 batteries instead of one just in case) is probably worth it just in case your classroom doesn't have outlets, or you study on the go and don't have an outlet.

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I don't know what I'd do without posts like these.  God bless you.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: laptop
« on: June 16, 2006, 02:21:51 AM »
I don't know if this question has been asked yet, but has anyone ever bought a laptop off Ebay?

It would be hard to get me to recommend one of those...

Computers are one of those things that are kinda unsafe to buy from an unknown buyer...ESPECIALLY if you don't know enough about them....

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This seemed to me like more of a self-interest protection letter than anything else.  More like UTK is trying to encourage those who will not be attending their school to let them know.

That would be agreed, but they didn't have to be jerks about it...

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Oh I see their thoughts...

you can't pay for 2 seat deposits to leave 2 schools waiting, but it's PERFECTLY fine for schools to put tons (I don't know how many but it almost seems like hundreds at some schools) on the Waitlist and wait till the last day of July to tell them their decision.

I personally put down one seat deposit because it was an early seat deposit, then I got into another school and had 2 seat deposits at 2 schools, and on June 1st I only paid 1 of the 2 seat deposits and withdrew from the other.

I don't feel I did anything ethically questionable at all.

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You missed a 2 page thread from the other day when I was debating between the Sony SZ and the Lenovo X series. I was unsure about the Lenovo because of lack of touchpad, and several people tried to convince me that it was great...well, I managed to find a store today that has the Thinkpads on the floor, and I absolutely hated the trackpoint. So, Lenovo is out of the question for me! (because the X series was the only one light enough for me to consider)

Thanks for your comments!

Do you really think the 1G is necessary? I don't do any gaming, just use it for basic things: using Word, and internet surfing mostly. Thanks!

I'm looking at your specs...and I got just about the same exact thing (but 1 GB of RAM and a couple of small upgrades prob.) and I paid almost half the price of that.  If you are going to splurge $1500 for a fancy looking computer, I don't know why you wouldn't just get the 1GB of RAM, I think you would see a difference in the RAM amounts.

I personally think it's way overpriced and I would take a look at Dell.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Laptop backpack
« on: June 13, 2006, 10:47:04 PM »
To add to my post, I got the backpack...

It has nice padding on both the bottom, and the sides.  It seems to be pretty good padding if you will be putting it down, maybe a bump here and there-I would say it probably could survive a fall, but I wouldn't try it.

I think it's great for me, it was cheap, and it is padded fairly well, I learnt my backpacks in college didn't get NEARLY the same abuse as high school, so I think I'm cool.  If you fall more, you may want a better backpack.  There is also a lot of room in it, as long as you aren't keeping tons of stuff with you, it should be fine for a day of school.

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