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Current Law Students / Re: Grades
« on: May 03, 2009, 12:32:14 PM »
Its still doc review pople, you just add in a bit or research, soory if I burt any ones bubble, but that's not what yyou will be doing if you make it past year 3. But just becuase I've clercked for four years, what dodo i know about what lawyers do, ask a 1A he'll no better. Point is most of the time we don't really know what it is that lawyers do becuase firms like to keep us segregated for the big picture

You're not bursting anyone's bubble; if you had said that the first year associates did grunt work that was of questionable importance, I probably wouldn't have disagreed very much.  It's just that the term you're using, well I'm used to it being applied to a very specific activity, which does not involve research of any kind.  Is all.  :)

Yea, and who's using this term to describe the work, people whose whole experince has been LSD or one summer at a frim? Yea, they are experts on what doc review is, its allways what everone else but you does.  ;D

Its doc review people. Its just most donít know any better because thatís all they have done. I can tell you from working for a solo and working for a big firm there a whole lot more to a case than that one little issue you think is so important. Did I know this at first, hell no, its only after working for a bunch of different people in different sized forms on different levels of complexity that I realized a lot of what I did was just busy work a tiny little cog in a machine, that could have been done cheaper by a paralegal but for the firm could not bill his time as legal advice, hence first years or summers got it. 

Point is most of you wonít know this until much later because you wonít have worked on much different until you get to stage where you actually get some resposeablity. Look, donít shoot me, you donít like that aspect of the law, then find a job where you will get to do more right away. Everyone starts at the bottom, even big law associates, and every (including me) thinks what they are personally doing is really, really important. But donít think just because youíre doing it its something special, most time its not, really seriously, believe me Iíve put tons of hours into to something I thought was really important that in all actually was not.

Or you could just say that you're using "doc review" in a broader sense than the rest of us, to include all marginal grunt work and not just looking at boxes of documents.  As far as I can tell, the only disagreement here is on terminology.  ???

Oh and I don't think a paralegal would actually be allowed to research a minor legal issue, would she?

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Current Law Students / Re: Grades
« on: May 03, 2009, 12:22:01 PM »
Its still doc review pople, you just add in a bit or research, soory if I burt any ones bubble, but that's not what yyou will be doing if you make it past year 3. But just becuase I've clercked for four years, what dodo i know about what lawyers do, ask a 1A he'll no better. Point is most of the time we don't really know what it is that lawyers do becuase firms like to keep us segregated for the big picture

You're not bursting anyone's bubble; if you had said that the first year associates did grunt work that was of questionable importance, I probably wouldn't have disagreed very much.  It's just that the term you're using, well I'm used to it being applied to a very specific activity, which does not involve research of any kind.  Is all.  :)

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Current Law Students / Re: Grades
« on: May 03, 2009, 12:15:14 PM »
Well color me redundant.  :(

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Current Law Students / Re: Grades
« on: May 03, 2009, 12:14:43 PM »
I was under the impression that doc review is going through a client's documents and tagging things relevant or non-relevant.  How exactly does researching one legal issue qualify as doc review?  ???

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It's true that living expenses will be there regardless if someone choose to attend law school or not, but the point of this thread is not only trying to figure out the "cost," but also the total "debt" that one will have and have to pay off. 

You should ask questions about debt if that's your purpose.  All your questions deal only with cost;  even then, they do not adequately reflect the cost of law school.

You mean like this?  http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,4019609.0.html

I think Contract2008's exercise is important (having people actually think about and list out different costs).  Some people do not adequately predict expenses and debt.  But the questions he/she is asking will not yield very accurate results if the purpose is to measure either debt or cost.

I agree.  I was shocked by how much my number came out to.  Maybe we should together a more comprehensive worksheet.  Though I guess financial aid forms already have that.

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It's true that living expenses will be there regardless if someone choose to attend law school or not, but the point of this thread is not only trying to figure out the "cost," but also the total "debt" that one will have and have to pay off. 

You should ask questions about debt if that's your purpose.  All your questions deal only with cost;  even then, they do not adequately reflect the cost of law school.

You mean like this?  http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,4019609.0.html

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Incoming 1Ls / How much debt will you accrue during law school?
« on: May 03, 2009, 11:11:51 AM »
Me: $50k-$100k.  :)

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sokoban is a female dog after level 3  ;D

And there's another hit on wikipedia.

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FWIW

Which is nothing.

You're right, because we all know freight truck drivers and college professors are interchangeable.  I mean really, if Stephen Hawkins was mobile, he'd be fighting fires right now.

http://www.woosk.com/2008/11/list-of-iqs-by-profession.html

If I had a shipload of containers that I needed moved overland, I sure as hell wouldn't want a bunch of college professors trying to do it.

Intelligence involves lots of variables.  Trying to chart it one-dimensionally is a mistake.

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I'd say between the two, probably philosophy, though I think economics would be more useful than either.

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