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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Hamline or St. Thomas (MN)?
« on: March 15, 2009, 12:48:01 PM »
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Please don't go to a law school based on public perception.  The only perception that matters is what the lawyers think, which is largely based on US News.  This is why we (lawyers) rely on US News; its the only real benchmark we have, even though it is flawed.

As the saying goes, perception is reality.  I think most lawyers in the Twin Cities still view the four law schools like this:

1. U of M
2. William Mitchell
3. UST (closing fast)
4. Hamline

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Hamline or St. Thomas (MN)?
« on: March 09, 2009, 08:01:10 AM »
You might be thinking of Paul Magnuson (WM '63), who's a senior judge on the U.S. District Court.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Hamline or St. Thomas (MN)?
« on: March 08, 2009, 09:09:42 PM »
And trust me, Donovan Frank got his law degree from Hamline University School of Law.  Go the the FJC website to check his bio:

http://www.fjc.gov/public/home.nsf/hisj

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Hamline or St. Thomas (MN)?
« on: March 08, 2009, 03:47:56 PM »
I'm with JD33.  I'm not arguing that prospective students who don't choose William Mitchell are idiots.  Quite the opposite.  There's an excellent attorney at my firm who's a Hamline alum.  All I want to do is give applicants the big picture on the Twin Cities legal community, and my earlier (rhetorical) post goes to the big picture.  WM is unquestionably more well-established and places equally, and oftentimes better, than UST.  I think WM generally places better than Hamline. 

And while it's true that UST's law school has only been open for ten years, while WM has been around for almost 110, I get the impression that UST believes money will buy them immediate respect and credibility.  If I were a prospective law student, I'm not sure if that's an institution I'd want to be associated with.   

 

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I'm a recent graduate of William Mitchell College of Law (WMCL) in St. Paul, Minnesota.  It's a private, independent law school founded in 1900, whose best known graduate is Warren Burger, the fifteenth CJ of SCOTUS.  The school has had a long and distinguished history (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Mitchell_College_of_Law), and I'm one among many who'd like to see that continue.

For prospective students, I can provide valuable (and frank) information about the curriculum, the facilities, the overall quality of legal education, and job placement.

For other recent graduates, this thread can be a place to discuss what WMCL does well and what it can do to improve and maintain its competitiveness in the legal world.

Ask away!   

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Hamline or St. Thomas (MN)?
« on: March 05, 2009, 09:39:57 AM »
And what's more, Hamline can boast a sitting U.S. District Court judge, Donovan Frank.  Just food for thought.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Hamline or St. Thomas (MN)?
« on: March 05, 2009, 09:36:41 AM »
# of U.S. Supreme Court Justices
William Mitchell (1)
St. Thomas (0)

# of U.S. Courts of Appeal Judges
William Mitchell (1)
St. Thomas (0)

# of U.S. District Court Judges
William Mitchell (2)
St. Thomas (0)

# of state Supreme Court Justices
William Mitchell (14)
St. Thomas (0)

# of state Courts of Appeal Judges
William Mitchell (11)
St. Thomas (0)

# of state district court judges
William Mitchell (hundreds)
St. Thomas (0)

# of U.S. Senators
William Mitchell (3)
St. Thomas (0)

# of U.S. Congressmen/women
William Mitchell (5)
St. Thomas (0)

# of state governors
William Mitchell (3)
St. Thomas (0)

# of state attorneys general
William Mitchell (2)
St. Thomas (0)

# of faculty w/ J.D.ís from T-14 schools
William Mitchell (15)
St. Thomas (12)

I would respectfully submit that until these numbers equalize, arguments that UST is a better institution than William Mitchell are extremely premature.

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