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« on: February 26, 2009, 02:38:34 PM »
Going to school in an active legal market with more opportunities (chicago) or going to a school with a lower cost of living, better quality of life, more published faculty, overall better school?
For the purpose of this discussion, consider that the schools are tier 2, and the chicago school is bottom half tier 2 and the non-chicago school is upper tier 2
I am trying to get an idea of what should be more significant, the market location of a school, or the quality of the legal education iteself?
Thanks for your thoughts.
« on: February 24, 2009, 05:52:11 PM »
I know everyone has their opinion about rankings and how to determine where to go. I wanted to share what I have been doing and the results in case it may be helpful to someone.
My area of interest in law is fairly specific: I seek a career in biotech IP law. Backups would be general IP, health, or immigration law. But, since my advanced degree and background is biomedical research, biotech IP is my direction. I searched for a listing of biotech IP firms to start working with. From that list, I started looking at where the associates came from for those firms, and I limited the search to my schools of interest. I add to this the regions that I am interested in building my career, namely Chicago, but NY/DC possible too. Now, based on this preliminary search, it is becoming quite clear that a lower ranked, Tier 2 school in Chicago would provide better employment prospects for me than a top tier 2 (30 spots) school in Ohio (Cincinnati). Yet, most attorneys I have talked to hold on to the notion of going to the best school you can get into. But some do admit that this really only pertains to top 20 and tier differences. Within a tier, and outside the top 20, they say ranking matters less in their hiring. Class rank however, is more important in hiring - which is obvious. So if you find yourself in a situation where you got into a good, relatively highly ranked school that is not in a strong legal market, but you did get into a lower ranked school within a strong market, how would you decide? I haven't made up my mind yet, and I need to visit one of the schools, and maybe revisit the other one, but I know that I am giving this a lot more consideration than some think I should; many think I should not even be considering a school ranked 30 spots lower than Cincinnati (in this case Loyola and DePaul). My point here is to support the idea of contacting firms to find out where they hire from. Skepticism about the information law schools provide is a good thing. And while the more information you gather, the more of a headache you may get, the better your decision will ultimately be. Hope you find this helpful, but if not, sorry to have wasted your time. Cheers!
« on: February 20, 2009, 05:48:12 PM »
I just got an email that I am accepted to University of Cincinnati (ranked 52). I also just got an email from an IP biotech atty (what I wish to become) at an excellent firm who said, the key factor to getting a law job outside a t14 school, is your class rank. Hands down. He also said that firms have favorites and do hire locally. So you also have to consider where you want to work and live.
Given this, let me pose this question. I like a city environment with lots to do, so Chicago beats Cinci. I want to go to a strong legal market, so again, Chicago beats Cinci. I want to go to the highest ranked school I can get into (consistently higher ranked) and that I can be in the top 10% of the class. So, I would think that Cinci is better for this (I am close to their 75% LSAT). Plus, I should get in state tuition. I have a 15K/yr scholarship to DePaul in Chicago, which has a recognized IP program, but poor job placement (IMO). Call me crazy, but don't you think Cinci is the best choice here?
« on: February 18, 2009, 05:55:34 PM »
I am trying to find up to date employment numbers that are beleivable. I have been searching law firms and noting the number of lawyers that are coming from various schools along with the year, and after having combed through a lot of them, I don't see the results reflecting what should be the case if what the law schools reported is true. I am just wondering if anyone knows of a good way to gauge the employment potential of tier 2 schools and to compare them to each other accordingly.
« on: February 18, 2009, 01:28:44 PM »
I do not understand how with a 161 LSAT I did not get into Franklin Pierce, and with a biomedical M.S. and strong letters...ugh@!
Right now I am trying to figure out which is better in Chicago, DePaul or Loyola and if either would be better for me than Rutgers in Newark, Penn State, or IU-Indy. Since IU-Indy has the higher ranking, it should be the choice, but I think for job prospects in Chicago, DePaul or Loyola is best. I have not been accepted to any Tier 1 schools, at least not yet, and it doesn't look good. I am trying to find out where are the IP firms that specialize in biotech and then see where they tend to recruit from. Any thoughts or opinions about any of the schools mentioned would be most appreciated.