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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Pepperdine vs. loyola
« on: April 27, 2009, 07:10:19 PM »
any comments with regard to the new rankings? pepperdine and loyola are further apart.... and loyola dropped out of their trial advocacy place in the top 10s. :-[ i know rankings only matters to pre- law students.... lawyers, judges and employers dont look at them. but i mean... the surveys were done by lawyers and judges... so it does say something about the way people view ur school.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: 0L looking for some advice
« on: April 23, 2009, 12:34:11 AM »
By the way, I think the technical term for your year is -2L.

lol agreed! its not fair to call sophomores the same name you call pre- laws. but anyways i agree with not taking on a debt for ur undergrad. I am from Cal (well.... not ivy league prestigious but still fair enough) and i don't think that helped my admissions at all, except for getting better LORs from professors. Its all about the numbers.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: USD vs. California Western
« on: April 21, 2009, 07:24:33 PM »
USD unless western offers u a lot of scholarship

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Pepperdine vs. loyola
« on: April 14, 2009, 08:11:40 PM »
275 of them were established in 2008 and is owned by faculty members? ;p

That, I would not know. but I do know that when I asked for the same information from loyola... they said they cant disclose it, even to admitted students, they just said the majority of the law firms in LA interviews them. I dont see why they cant give out the names.... other schools do. its on NALP, but its just out of date. does this raise a red flag?

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Pepperdine vs. loyola
« on: April 10, 2009, 07:50:24 PM »
just got an email fom pepperdine's CDO with a list of law firms which participated in on campus interviews last year. its about 300+ law firms from last year. If anyone wants the list, send me a message and i'll forward you the email.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Pepperdine vs. loyola
« on: April 09, 2009, 05:36:33 PM »
Yea I am leaning towards pepperdine at the moment mainly because i felt like they really cared abt their students. at the open hosue they were talking abt how everyone chose a prof as their mentors, where the prof looks after them, chat with them over family dinners... go to yatch parties =] sounds like a great environment for law school eh? they also have a team in the career development office who already has a JD, worked in the field, has great connections who would talk with us and find out what we want to do, then go out and find interns and jobs for us in the relating field. i dont know how other schools do it, but pepperdine sounds kind of personal and caring in their approach. they also have a kinda "GSI" for each class who had succeeded in the class previously, taught by the same professor who will help us in studying for the final.

Havent gone to Loyola's open house yet. but any thots on this?

I love the view and the area... but it wont be a factor in my decision. despite the fact that loyola..... does seem kinda ghetto

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Pepperdine vs. loyola
« on: April 09, 2009, 03:02:59 AM »
loyola is not slipping ranking wise. but it has remained static for the past few years, while pepperdine, its rival in the nearby los angeles area has been rising rapidly. ranking from 99th in 2005 to 59th in 2009. so pepperdine is a lot more competitive with loyola now than ever before. firms get to chose from pepperdine and loyola (putting aside USC and UCLA), rather than just from loyola as it did a decade ago. this puts loyola in "slipping" situation relatively speaking in its competitiveness in the los angeles area.

So..a huge jump in ranking in 3 years (I beleive 59th is from 2008). Doesnt that seem kind of unstable? Sure, it's a good sign, but couldnt it just as easily fall say..10 spots?

As far as being competitive in L.A., Loyola has been around approx. 30 years (EDIT: 50 years. Loyola: 1920, Pepperdine: 1971) longer than Pepperdine (meaning wayyyy more grads)..to me, that says more than a quick jump in rankings when it comes to community recognition and presence. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that you didnt fully convince me. Not that you have to, of course.

Pepperdine over Loyola easily.

Thanks for everything.

Thanks~ i think ur argument is definitely persuasive. it would mean that loyola is a much more stable school in terms of ranking and alumni network.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Pepperdine vs. loyola
« on: April 08, 2009, 09:37:27 PM »
loyola is not slipping ranking wise. but it has remained static for the past few years, while pepperdine, its rival in the nearby los angeles area has been rising rapidly. ranking from 99th in 2005 to 59th in 2009. so pepperdine is a lot more competitive with loyola now than ever before. firms get to chose from pepperdine and loyola (putting aside USC and UCLA), rather than just from loyola as it did a decade ago. this puts loyola in "slipping" situation relatively speaking in its competitiveness in the los angeles area.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Pepperdine vs. loyola
« on: April 08, 2009, 07:29:49 PM »
thats the feeling i got too. Pepperdine is getting so much better in just a few years. while loyola has just been going down. i will smack myself in the head if i chose to go to loyola and by the time i graduate pepperdine has climbed to the T50.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Pepperdine vs. loyola
« on: April 08, 2009, 03:51:51 PM »
sorry did the above stat refers to pepperdine or loyola?

I am seriously having trouble deciding. i love pepperdine and their "students first" approach to teaching. but i have heard so much about loyola being a better sch with better rep and better job prospects.

Please help me out guys

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