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Studying for the LSAT / Re: motivate?
« on: February 19, 2009, 12:32:47 PM »
as you can see with my practice sections, I am far away from my goal - 170+.  Thats the main thing that worries me.  Time flies and I feel like I'm going to run out. 

time flies and you still have room for improvement, but you're not too far away from your goal at the same time.  even if you're getting 17 total questions wrong, you're around a 165 (give or take a point or two).  see here:

i understand you feel time crunched, but you're going to burn out if you don't give yourself a break.  your brain and body need time to recover from stressful periods such as midterms; there's a reason you get a week-long break right after it!  based on what you are saying, i do think you might be approaching burnout.  if you don't recharge your batteries you will burn out and it could happen when you really can't afford it.  take a break from studying while you still have time!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: motivate?
« on: February 19, 2009, 10:31:54 AM »

Also, yesterday was my first time doing LSATs in 4 days because I have a 3 midterms.

well that's why you can't concentrate.  even though you stepped away from the LSAT for a few days you've been studying for three midterms!  studying for midterms alone will burn a person out, i can't even imagine studying for midterms and the lsat at the same time. 

i think it's reasonable to take a practice test before your break, but after that it might be in your best interest go off and enjoy your spring break without studying.  relax a bit and you'll come back with a clear mind and ready to study some more.  you might be rusty for a day or two, but it's february and the test is in june.  you have plenty of time :)

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Improving Reading Comprehension
« on: February 13, 2009, 01:03:47 PM »
It's hard to say, but I think looking at other exams' RC questions isn't very helpful.  I think LSAT RC questions are very different from what is asked on the other exams.  A lot of the questions are really logical reasoning questions involving the passage.  If you think about it, those exams are testing your RC skills in a specific context.  For example, the SAT questions especially ask things that are pretty explicit in the passage, but most LSAT RC ones are not.  I haven't taken the GRE, MCAT, or GMAT but I can't imagine that logical reasoning is an important skill for business or medical school admissions.  In that sense, I think that while you will have good practice at reading passages in a shorter span of time, you will not gain skills at answering the questions.

The main reason people think RC is so difficult is because it's harder to study for and improve at, so most people don't.  You can easily begin to master RC and start working on LG and LR instead, so in studying RC becomes the ignored section.  On test day, when people get to RC, they begin to panic because they haven't studied it as hard as the rest.  Whatever you do, when you start studying for the full exam you should make sure that you're working on your RC at the same time.  Remember that it's worth more than games!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Improving Reading Comprehension
« on: February 13, 2009, 11:45:32 AM »
if you're not already, you should definitely take on some active reading techniques when reading passages.  take notes, underline (but don't underline everything) and make a special note when you see specific names or examples so you know where to look when answering questions. usually when you read something that has a different description or quote, or a specific example is cited, you can expect to see a question asked.

also, be sure to read the NYT science section on Tuesdays.  Those articles are interesting and well written, but tend to be dense just like the reading comp science passages.

Law School Applications / Re: Economy and law school admissions -- tougher?
« on: February 12, 2009, 12:46:50 PM »
I'm thinking that people might consider the job market more seriously and find all those scholarships more tempting.

i'm sure a lot of people will jump down my throat for saying this, but i happen to agree with you.  the most job growth is expected to be in the public sector, and government jobs don't pay as well.  aside from the obvious benefit of having to take out fewer loans (if you can even get approved for a loan) when you take a scholarship from a decent school, you have the option of taking a public position without stressing over paying so much loan debt.  larger firms are being hit pretty hard by the economy.  clearly some graduates of certain schools will never have trouble finding a great job, there are fewer options and firms are definitely scaling back.

IMHO, i've always felt that going to a T14 school guarantees much better and higher paying job prospects but you are absolutely locked into those $140K jobs since you just took out that amount in loans.  however if that's the kind of job you want, then go for it.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Feb Results
« on: February 11, 2009, 08:08:15 PM »
And, sadly, I'm so old that I remember when we had to wait for our scores in the mail 6 weeks later.  And when we used to have to pay an extra $10 to call up and get our score through the automated telephone system.  That was torture!

I'm right with you there, except I remember having to do that for the SAT and it was $23!  Those people make a killing off of over-anxious teenagers.

Seriously though, thanks for the explanation.  I know a lot of administrative stuff goes into it, but I still feel like 1.5-2 weeks is a more reasonable time frame to sort through problems and run the Scantron.  That said complaining does me no good, I'll just continue to wait like the over-anxious teenager I once was  :-\

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Which LSAT prep course would you suggest??
« on: February 11, 2009, 04:47:10 PM »
I took the Kaplan course and I was pretty happy with it.  I signed up for the class that teaches for the December exam, but I was able to stay on board for free until the February exam.  I am awaiting my score so I can't provide quantifiable results, but I appreciated that they not only helped you prepare for the test; they helped prepare you for the test day itself.  In that sense, I think Kaplan or something similar can help you learn how to calm your nerves by testing you in a real test-like setting.  It seems that a lot of people who study alone do very well when they practice succumb to nerves when they take the real test.  When you take a class you get the experience of going in and taking a proctored exam with other people.  A bonus is if you decide to go in really early to practice waking up early and taking a test :)

That said, I think whatever course of study you choose depends on what you're willing to put into it.  I put a lot of time and effort into the class but many people don't (even though these courses are very expensive and your future as a law student depends on your success).  I work a lot better with structure and someone checking up on me to see how I'm doing, but that's not the case for everyone.  There's no blanket answer to what's going to help you perform the best, but I just wanted to provide my experience.  Good luck!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Feb Results
« on: February 09, 2009, 08:01:47 PM »
Forgive me for asking this, but why exactly does it take so long for LSAT scores to be released?  I understand the Monday for Sabbath observers, and I get that maybe they'd need a week after that, but it's a scantron!  Can anyone shed some light on this?

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Which was the experimental section?
« on: February 08, 2009, 03:02:44 PM »
I don't think that's true for all test forms. I had two RC and neither was the first section (I'm allowed to say that, right? I didn't say which section was which number)

me too.  thankfully i know which one was experimental since one RC was in the first three and the other was not.  i really screwed up my timing on the first RC, so i think i got pretty lucky!

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