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Law School Admissions / Re: How young is everyone?
« on: April 24, 2004, 10:17:13 AM »
I am 22, started law school at 21. Don't worry about being younger than everyone else. I got some crap for it from some idiots, but most people are not that lame.

If you are smart enough, you are old enough

Incoming 1Ls / Re: George Mason
« on: April 24, 2004, 10:07:46 AM »
Hey future 1L's CONGRATS on GMU! I currently go there and I love it. I posted something on the waitlist section under being on the GMU waitlist that tells about the profs. the FT will have next year. You probably want to take a look at it. :)

Law School Admissions / Re: Volunteer work.... with the church???
« on: April 24, 2004, 10:02:56 AM »
First off.

Mormons and Catholics. :)(I might be biased b/c I am Mormon) ;D

Second, the joke about the multiple wives, not so funny, really try to get more creative, we Mormons have only heard that one about 1,000 times! :P

Volunteer for the sake of of volunteering, not for some law school application, all they want to see is if you have the numbers, the rest is just icing on the cake.

I eat my words. Congratulations! Now read what I posted about the classes and start learning the black letter law now! See you next year!

Congrats on GMU!!  I absolutely love it there.  It was a really hard choice for me to come to GMU b/c I am doing a long distance relationship with my fiancee (getting married May 8) who is at BYU finishing his undergrad. The best info I can get give you is about the daytime profs and classes you will take your first semester.

Torts-Krauss  Unless you are really into tort theory I would avoid him. He does not teach the black letter law and just wants to "wonder" about what tort law should be. To him tort law is about corrective justice and morality (which 90% of the law world will say is wrong, most say torts is about detterence and compenstation). He is a really smart guy and he has written a ton on torts. If you have him then you want to read all the stuff he wrote over the summer. The exam is basically about spitting his opinion back out at him. Also read Vosburg v. Putney and theorize about it. You will be money on the first day.

Econ Found--Ippolitio
There is not to much to say about this class except to not talk during it. You can study really hard, but unless you have an econ background you probably can hope for a B at best (gotta love the 2.9 curve). Everyone, and I mean everyone, walked out of his exam completly demoralized and convinced we had failed. I would study to the point where you understand the concepts, but don't waste your time on the practice tests or problems, they won't help (even though he says they will) Oh yes and one other thing, ONE VERY IMPORTANT THING, this is what got me a B in the class (which was a shock to me seeing as I thought I failed for sure) WRITE DOWN EVERY STORY HE SAYS IN DETAIL! I AM NOT KIDDING. When he talks about the pencil, write it down, same with the mafia, jamiaca, and anything else on his mind. He will put about 10 of these questions on the exam, and they might be the only 10 you know for sure you got right. I was shocked at the number of people who did not bother to do this, and thus gave up 10 points, which on the curve is HUGE!

He is awesome in class, take thorough notes when he is talking about cases. Know the UCC 2 (unrevised version) and Restatment cold. This will be huge on the exam. Talk a lot in class and go to his office and you will get a grade bump.He is afraid of the curve though and tends to shove most students in the B B- ranges, thus making it very hard to do well, even though you might know the material really well, Oh yeah facts of cases are very important.

KNOW WHAT TRESPASS ON THE CASE IS! He is going to embarass the crap out of some poor 1L on the first day of class. KNOW THIS and DOUBLE CHECK to make sure you know it. Gilberts Property is a great study guide keyed to his book. You need to know the policy and black letter law. You don't need to know cases, so read them and move on with life. You have to think outside the box for his exam, but don't do it in class. Start getting Future Interests down now, he really likes them on the exam.

I think that is about it, plus I have to get back to studying. Feel free to contact me if you have other questions

Full Time, but after the first year it doens't really matter too much. We have a lot of switching between the two programs

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: BYU Wait List
« on: April 20, 2004, 12:11:12 PM »
Yes you are thinkign to much, I got into BYU law last year for the Fall 2003 class and decided to come to GMU, even though I left my fiancee out there to finish his undergrad. Chances are your numbers are not good enough for BYU and you would be in over you head. Suffolk is a great regional, so go there and be happy. It is better to go to a 4th Tier and be content than dream about the 1st Tier that will never happen and be miserable. When all is said and done a law degree is a law degree is a law degree.  K, back to studying for contracts.....joyous finals exams....I do miss that about BYU...they are done around this time of year!

What UCLA is doing is denying people or waitlisiting them to be nice that probably will not go to UCLA anyways (or at least by their calculations). They are doing this to increase the number of students they admit that actually come to the school. I think overall this is a good practice, b/c it save real admits the pains of a waitlist, but it sucks for those with really high scorese that actually want to go there. My advice is if you are one of those who has really good scores, but got waitlisted in to write them a letter about how much you love UCLA and how if accepted you will definetly go there.

Good Luck!

p.s. TO ALL: As a first year just about to start finals and wasting lots of study time on this board, all you pre-laws need to find out your fall classes and go buy some study aids (there are tons) and know the black letter law before you get to class.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: BYU Wait List
« on: April 08, 2004, 04:11:08 PM »
I posted something on the other BYU topic list. My advice, and this is coming from someone who is working for a Federal Judge this summer in Utah, in the top 20% at GMU, and got into BYU LAW from BYU Undergrad. GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!!! Go to a large city where oppurtunites will fly at you, where speakers will come from all over, where being LDS is not so normal, and where most importantly you can freely talk about the law. I am an active LDS getting ready to get married in the DC temple and I know LDS cringe at my last statement, but you want to go somewhere with academic freedom concerning the law.  I can not say enough good things about my undergrad experience at BYU, but there was a lack of diversity. Go out to the world and hear other views and be an example to others.  All you LDS know what I am talking about.  I promise you will not regret it. Tell the waitlist to go to hell and take your second option because it will be the better one in the long run!

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: BYU
« on: April 08, 2004, 04:03:42 PM »
I decided NOT to go to BYU after getting admitted there, even though it was a tough decsion to make at the time, it was the best one. I went to BYU undergrad and loved it, but the law school is just not as good as it as ranked. I have had more oppurtunites at GMUSL than BYU would have ever given me and the job market is much better. Believe people when they tell you to go to law school where you want to work. That is why I decided to go to GMU. I am from the DC area and while I loved Provo you would have to kill me before I ended up working and living in Utah for the rest of my life.  I am working for the Chief Judge on the 10th Federal District Ct. for Utah this summer while my husband as of May 8 finishes up his undergrad at BYU. Then we are outta Utah for good. I would advise those on the BYU waitlist to take your next best option because unless it is the U of U it will probably be your better option in the long run!

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