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General Off-Topic Board / Re: How to deal with Gunners!
« on: April 26, 2009, 10:24:21 PM »
But I find him entertaining.  :)

I do not care about being attacked, even under the veil of "entertainment". I am very secure. And some of my ideas do appear to be "out there", I realize that. But at least I can try on a new perspective and form my own thoughts. And those thoughts have sered me well, otherwise, I would not be nearly as accomplished as I am.

But, back to the topic, gunners do not realize that they are wasting money and time...their own as well as that of the other students and the profs. Every minute spent on a student's comments is a minute less of prof lecture. Even if just five minutes are wasted in a single class session, a 1L class can waste at least hundred$ of thou$and$ of dollar$ per year if not million$.   

For the record, I appreciate the backup Cool Beans. It's nice to have an ally once in awhile. However, I do think you give me too much credit. I am wrong at times, or at least overreaching. Sometimes, I do it purposefully, to provoke, cause controversy, invoke emotion. I like it. But I am mostly serious, and I believe most of what I say. And I believe that most of these people are intelligent and hard-working, if over-opinionated and short-sighted. Those are the people I want to provoke into expanding their ideologies.

To some people, I am not welcome on this board, and those are the people I seek to irritate. But I serve a purpose besides entertainment or comedy. I have nothing to prove, and that's nice.

There are times when I look back at my posts and go, I could have constructed my ideas better so that people understand them, namely the time that I used an analogy from contract law to demonstrate the ridiculousness of posters being disbarred for practicing law w/o a license. People took my argument too literally instead of realizing that I was presenting a thought process upon which common laws in general are founded: that an "awareness" of a wrongful act may/may not define its existence as a crime under the law, as might an understanding or "common belief" between two or more people in the exchange of goods and services. Moreover, the "reasonable person" standard is often a factor in defining wrongs. To me, understanding the common law is about nothing more than understanding general prionciples upon which it is founded and tempering it with our common sense, which is informed mostly by the unique time(s) and place(s) in which we live.   

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Testmasters vs. Kaplan
« on: April 26, 2009, 10:05:05 PM »
Save your $$$, get the Powerscore Bibles ($40 each on Amazon), the SuperPrep Book ($20-$30) and all three "10 More" Books ($20-$30) each, plus the LSAT 180 or LSAT Advanced (yes, from Kaplan). You'll spend about $500.

Oh, and for logic games...the McGraw Hill LSAT ($20) is the best I have seen. Most people don't know about it, but it teaches you to flesh out all of the rules in your diagrams, so you go as far as can in your development before you approach the questions, and you do as little erasing as possible. Your speed on games will be so fast that you might finish the section perfectly in 25-30 minutes. Ignore McGraw Hill's other sections, just use it for prep on games. See the link.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?r=1&WRD=mcgraw+hill&x=0&popup=0&CAT=813781&y=0&src=ET

You have time to take 40 full practice exams before the real thing.

Those courses are unnecessary, but if you take one, do Testmasters. 

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: best way to study for june lsat in 7 weeks
« on: April 26, 2009, 09:16:03 PM »
powerscore books +PTs + go crazy

I second this. In fact, you don't really need a prep course if you're intelligent and disciplined. Take at least 20 practice exams before June-1st.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Seattle University or McGeorge?
« on: April 26, 2009, 09:08:09 PM »
So are you planning to go back to NY with your degree?  If so, I don't think either are a great fit.  Really it comes down to whether you want to practice in Washington or Sacramento.  Both schools don't travel all that well.

This is true. But if you stay on the west coast, go to Pacific, not SU. While it's a very good school from which to get your law education, it doesn't provide great jobs right out of school. SU's reach is basically a 20 block radius...literally! Put it this way, A Pacific grad can work in Cali and Seattle. An SU grad can only work in Seattle...downtown...a few blocks from the school...that's it, really. In the top-5% you may be able to move to Cali with a little luck. 

If you want to work in NY, you'd best go to a school in the east, unless you can get into Stanford, Berkeley (which would travel better than any other west schools). UCLA might get you there in entertainment law, but you'd still have to rely on career services and networking a lot. I do know of one associate from SU in a NY BigLaw firm...but that's like winning the lotto...probably knew somebody.

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While I think that LawDog's high opinion of Tulane is slanted due to the fact that he's heading there in the fall, I agree with his basic point that Tulane is the better choice in this instance.  $45k in debt is still significant, but not unmanageable even if you don't end up working at a big firm.

Of course it's not just $45k; you have to factor in loans for other things.  But that would be the case at SJU as well.

I'm headed for Columbia, with $75K as opposed to a full scholy...which is why I am re-taking the LSAT. Also, if my zealousness for a school is a reliable clue to where I am going (as you seem to believe), UCLA, Chicago-Kent, Howard, and NU would be the more likely picks. I am much more of an "advocate" for those schools in discussions b/c people tend to underrate them. 

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: How to deal with Gunners!
« on: April 26, 2009, 08:41:43 PM »
Tell them to go to LSD, TLS, MySpace, Facebook, or wherever else and get it out of their system...then maybe they can shut up in class. That's what I do; I am as quiet as a church mouse in classes, but I am very vocal online. 

I figured as much.

Oh...u got jokes! How did I know the dogs would come out...and that YOU would be the lead dog. I guess I left myself open for that one. But I get A's, so it works for me. lol.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: How to deal with Gunners!
« on: April 26, 2009, 08:12:12 PM »
Tell them to go to LSD, TLS, MySpace, Facebook, or wherever else and get it out of their system...then maybe they can shut up in class. That's what I do; I am as quiet as a church mouse in classes, but I am very vocal online. 

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I want to thank everybody who contributed their thoughts. I finally came to a decision and sent my full seat deposit to Tulane. Thanks again.

Congrats! Tulane is a popular school this year...Wow! Why is everyone on Tulane? Actually, I know Tulane is all that, but it just seems that everywhere u look, there's somebody screaming "Tulane".

And Tulane is probably the best non-top-25 school in the country. Ok, one can argue Brooklyn, Cardozo and Temple...and maybe Miami or Hastings, but Tulane has a national reach. It places well in all of the big markets (NY, DC, Chicago, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, L.A., SF, and even Seattle), and compares well with some top-25 schools. 

i strongly object to this...

Reasonable "objections" are usually followed by a supporting argument. But I'll humor you anyways...

go to http://www.top-law-schools.com/
 and look at the school description for Tulane.

Besides...who gives a FF WHAT you "object" to...especially when you don't back it up?

It doesn't matter if he doesn't back up his objection when nobody's keeping score.  ;)

And citing TLS for your assertion is sad.  Go back to saying that you read stuff in books by adcomms.

You're right...no score kept...doesn't matter. lol. 

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Tulane vs. Hastings
« on: April 26, 2009, 03:09:31 AM »
You def. made the right choice. Film, television, advertising, recording, media...different ballgame. Good Luck!

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Tulane vs. Hastings
« on: April 26, 2009, 02:53:59 AM »
I already sent back my forms, and it's definitely Hastings, but yeah, I'm mostly interested in bioscience & healthcare-related IP law, which doesn't really seem to be Tulane's forte (Entertainment might be interesting, but Sports law sounds to me like watching paint dry).

The other thing is, of all the places you mentioned the Tulane name being recognized, New Orleans wasn't one of them, and I've found that to be truer than one would expect--New Orleans firms don't seem that interested Tulane grads, which would make me a little nervous about summer jobs & internships.  Also, NY, DC, & IL are great, but one of Tulane's biggest selling points for me was that I already live here, whereas going to Hastings would involve a major move.  So just putting off the move for three years(i.e. going to Tulane and having to move out of NO to find a decent job)?  Nah, not worth it. 

Also, after going to Tulane undergrad, I think a lot of that "national reputation" has more to do with the fact that many Tulane students were already from other parts of the country (e.g. the NE), and just went back to their home cities and got jobs through the same networks they would have, regardless of where they went to school--not because Tulane has a spectacular reputation.

Either way, it's a good school, and I had a lot of fun in New Orleans, but I think I'm ready for something a little different, and SF has been a lot of fun every time I've visited.  Stuff like the partnership with UCSF Med & the LAB Project are just more what I'm looking for in a law school.

Trust me, Tulane has a spactacular rep. New Orleans firms have had to really fight for Tulane grads over the years, to no avail. Thus, they understandably want to concentrate their efforts wisely. This happens in or out of market in a lot of places. How much effort do you think Nashville firms put into recruiting Vandy grads knowing most want to leave for IL, DC, NY or GA?

Many top national BigLaw firms once recruited at the University of Washington in Seattle, but they found in the 1990's that people loved Seattle and didn't want to leave, so they just slowed their recruiting there. Plus, Microsoft, Nintendo, Real Networks, Boeing, Amazon.com, and other corporations were actively stealing top IP recruits. Likewise with environmental law companies and agencies.

Many Tulane students go to New Orleans intending to leave after graduation, which contributes to its reputation in other markets.

So what you're seeing is a result of self-selection, not any disrespect for the quality of Tulane grads. Let's face it, after UVA, Duke, Vandy and Texas, Tulane is probably the best southern law school. Some might argue for Emory or Georgia, but Emory doesn't hold down Atlanta, which it should, b/c their grads are NOT leaving Georgia. And SMU, Florida, FL. St., UH, Baylor? Forget it.

Besides, most top law schools have recruits from cities all over the country, whereas regional schools do not so much. And that is one trait of a "national" school, as opposed to a "regional" one. The fact that Tulane can pull students from all over the country who go to other markets (post-graduation) and get good jobs, is a big indication of its rep. 

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