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Truth is truth.  How profound.

Why not just show us the data that you have, and how it supports your statement about how there are thresholds with grades?  A reminder, you said the following:

There are threshholds in grades. The first is 2.5, then there's 3.0, 3.2 (that's a really important one b/c is a B+ average on a 4.0 scale) and then there's 3.5 and 4.0, of course.

So show us how the data supports that rather than the simpler explanation that the higher the GPA, the better the chances of admissions.  Remember, to demonstrate a threshold, you need to show that someone just above a threshold is significantly better off than a person just below it.

Remember: I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just pointing out that you're reading more into your data than is warranted.  Unless of course you have more than I suspect.  Go ahead, show us.  :)

You know good and well that I am right. You are deep in flame territory, b/c you are saying essentially what I am saying. Ask anyone what a 2.9 GPA means for someone's admission, and they will ask, "Can you get it up to 3.0?" That's the first thing anyone thinks. You are str8 flamin'.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UNC, W&L or Vandy (wait-list)
« on: May 04, 2009, 06:46:52 PM »
In order to have a realistic chance at Vandy, I would need to register for the June LSAT, prep like crazy and increase my score 3-4 points. 

UNC. Not many people will be getting in off of waitlists this year.

I'm white, but I've never had a problem being around groups that were all or almost all black/latino/asian.

That's b/c people of color are more accepting. Furthermore, we live in a world where we must interact with non-minorities, whether we like it or not. Many Whites, on the onther hand, attempt to live as though they do not have to effectively deal with people of color, and a lot of them succeed at it. People of color can be "prejudiced", but they cannot be "racist".

Being Racist means having the socioeconomic and political power to exclude someone from crucial aspects of daily survival, such as employment or housing. By and large, people of color have no such power, and, as collectives, certainly lack that power completely on a large scale.

Whites, on the other hand, have the power to deny access to any institution, and do so at-will, despite laws enacted to counteract the structural imbalance.

Not about skin color but arguably similar, as a practicing Jew I knew I wouldn't be comfortable at a school that didn't have a decent-sized practicing population.

Jews are White people. Not quite the same thing.

Are there an underlying anxiety that is associated with attending a predominately white institution with the student and staff majority white?

 ***DISCLAIMER: This is not to be misconstrued, offensive, derogatory, or racist in any way.  If you do reel that this is in any way offensive, derogatory, or racist then you may want to ask yourself why YOU interpret this question in that way.***

It is actually a real concern that some minorities do not either recognize or gets misdiagnosed (whether merely dismissed as a more familiar symptom of general anxiety caused by other random things).  Regardless, those who do acknowledge, yet maybe not a readily explanation for these feelings, this post is for you (and I to an extent).  Do you have any anxiety whatsoever about this? 

Are you asking if there is a specific psychological condition that is attributable to this situation?  I would say that this is very common in any situation where there is something that makes you stand out from the majority.  

As a white person, I've found myself myself in a group of all or predominantly minorities and have found the following to be true.  When it's a varied  mix (Blacks, Arabs, Caucasians, Asians, etc.), I may notice I'm the only white but it doesn't bother me.  If it's nearly all the same racial group but myself, I do feel a bit uncomfortable because clearly I am the odd man out.

And yes, depending on the "vibe" I am feeling from them, that discomfort may be in the form of real anxiety.  Not simply because of the racial make-up of the group itself, but because clearly I am the minority in the situation and the bad-mojo I may be perceiving (e.g. a street gang vs. young republicans).

But more importantly, this isn't even a racial thing, as it is about just being different.  As a fat person, I've found myself feeling uncomfortable when I'm around a lot of skinny people.  That may sound like it's insignificant compared to a racial difference, but realize also that growing up, and even today, I've been the subject of scorn ranging from just dirty looks to being physically assaulted (especially as a child) because I was overweight.  To a similar extent, I have had the same feelings and experiences by being the odd-man out when being the lone liberal in a group of conservatives (and vice-versa, I tend to play the contrarian politically), and the lone man in a group of women (especially when they are scorned angry women), and the lone atheist (and quite vocal) in a group of believers.  

In short, you might be surprised that a lot of people feel the same way but for their own personal reasons.  

I concur on the "fat prejudice", for sure. But those other life choices are just that; if people don't agree with those things, and it makes you an outsider, you need new "friends". It's their problem, not yours. But fat prejudice is something that is seldom discussed, yet very polarizing. And it leaves many beautiful people out in the social cold, b/c, contrary to popular belief, many overweight people don't even like overweight people. 

Law School Admissions / Re: does late waitlist=early admit?
« on: May 02, 2009, 09:03:09 PM »
Sometimes beiong waitlisted all summer may give you an edge in the next cycle, but it sometimes won't. I was waitlisted late by Stanford and Vanderbilt one year and the next years, it did nothing for me. Vandy waitlisted me again and Stanford rejected me in January. I made the mistake of not changing anything the next year, figuring that I just needed to ride it out. I thought I was a shoe-in. I was wrong.

The key is to make sure you behave as though you were rejected by these schools, that is, come back next year even stronger, and apply earlier. If you apply early but without changing anything, you are likely to be disappointed. adcoms may think you're taking an admit for granted b/c you know you were a good candidate the year before. And waitlisted candidates ARE good candidates.

Write a better essay, make your resume as organized and well-worded as you can, and, in the case of Northwestern, Texas and Vandy, interview if you didn't before.

Black Law Students / Re: Thread for LSAT 145- 149 scores
« on: May 01, 2009, 02:11:37 PM »
Ok if you have clicked on this link then you have the same questions and feel the same way as other 145's-149's.  The feeling is gut wretching.  The one question is who the hell will let us throw the doors with these scores.  This thread is for you.  I will begin by stating that I have scored a 146 on the December 08 LSAT.  I have a 4.0 gpa, however this has not been calculated by LSAC or LDAS (whichever does the calculations).  I have several "perks" on my resume/personal statement to include military disabled veteran, small business owner, and co-founder of a non-profit.  I say all this to say that in the end my LSAT is a 146.  This is all that may really matter.  However, I have not been admitted or denied as of yet, so I do not know if my "perks" mean anything.  Speaking of admittance this thread is made for a point of reference for all of us in the lower 30 (percent that is).  As always, as I am sure you have heard, your gpa will be a variable as well as your personal statement etc.  With that said please feel free to post your local law school that will accept us for info purposes. 

In Texas if your score is between 145- 149 you will have a moderate chance at the following:

Texas Southern U.,
South Texas (slightly less),
Saint Mary (San Antonio),
Texas Weselyan (Ft. Worth). 

In the neighboring states of Texas you will have a moderate chance at

Loyola Uni in New Orleans
Oklahoma City Uni

The first time I took the LSAT (mistakenly did so with with no prep), I scored a 145. I was still able to woo Vandy, Columbia and Iowa, as well as Chicago-Kent and San Francisco into waitlisting me that year. And my Cum-GPA is 3.58, albeit in a double-degree. Someone with a 4.0/146 should do even better, esp. given your "perks", aka, "soft factors". Something isn't right in the applications, LOR's or essays. Take everything apart and re-do it. There's absolutely no reason anyone with a 4.0 should EVER have to settle for going to a TTT school! Ever! TTT/T4 schools should have ZERO students w/4.0's. Re-take the test and re-write your essays.

Black Law Students / Re: 2008-2009 Black T-14 Acceptances
« on: May 01, 2009, 02:05:42 PM »
Don't mean to bump an old thread unnecessarily but is everyone's cycle over (at least t14 wise)?
I'm only in at GULC. Waiting for the rest...


Waitlisted, Pending or "On Hold" at several others

Black Law Students / Re: Former gang member...What are my chances?
« on: May 01, 2009, 01:56:58 PM »
You should be fine; I know an individual who scored a 156 and was admitted into HLS. Keep your head up, nobody in LSD is on any admissions commitee.

That's true. I know that has happened quite a few times. But man, I am still trippin' about how you read me my rights earlier. But it's all good. You are a stand up G, I can respect that.  ;)

Stand up G? Really?

No'me sum...(we pound fists)

Black Law Students / Re: Former gang member...What are my chances?
« on: April 30, 2009, 11:38:22 PM »
You should be fine; I know an individual who scored a 156 and was admitted into HLS. Keep your head up, nobody in LSD is on any admissions commitee.

That's true. I know that has happened quite a few times. But man, I am still trippin' about how you read me my rights earlier. But it's all good. You are a stand up G, I can respect that.  ;)

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