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I admire the OP's determination.

That said, from his posts, it seems like he's the kind of kid that just doesn't get it. There's an immaturity there. I can't quite put my finger on it but he seems a bit... off.




Nah theres no immaturity there and Im not a bit....off. Just a determined person that knows what they want to do in life. Of course I know there is always a chance of things not happening how they should. I know in 5 years I could be doing something TOTALLY different. But Im not going to settle for not doing what I truly want if I can help that.

So if law school doesnt work, I have back up plans. Such as getting my masters, taking the weekend seminar with the NFLPA and passing that exam so I can get licensed. Then I work with an agency and go from there. Eventually to the point of going on my own because that is the only way you truly make the good money.

So sorry man your definitely wrong.

Okay.

*shrug*

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General Board / Re: Tough Decisions : Which Law School?
« on: March 06, 2009, 10:59:56 AM »

What's more important to you: your relationship with your husband or your school? 

It's going to be hard enough both being professional students, but if you add distance... seriously think about the chance that the relationship just could not be maintained and how you would feel about that.

Although I've known people who do it.

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General Board / Re: rejection phone call?
« on: March 06, 2009, 10:46:31 AM »
I just did an interview today,and got a call 3 hours later. But I did not carry my cell phone with me and the person left no voice message. It was past 5pm. I checked my email and found the secretary asking me if I got a phone no by which they could reach me.

Could it be a rejection phone call? have you got any rejection calls before? damn, it must be embarrassing. If it was an acceptance I wonder why they did not just send me an email.

Yikes. In my experience, when they call so shortly after an interview, it means you either got the callback or you got the job. I've never heard of a rejection over the phone. Recruiters are cowards, hence rejection emails/letters.



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General Board / Re: Tough Decisions : Which Law School?
« on: March 06, 2009, 10:44:46 AM »
I am writing this post in hopes that someone will have some insight they can share.

I have been very lucky in that I have been accepted into some very good law schools and the time has come for me to make some decisions. My top choices of the schools i got into are fordham and Tulane. However my husband is starting med school at Tulane in the fall. I am not sure what is the wise decision in this situation. To make matters more complicated. I got waitlisted at Columbia and I def do not see myself passing up that opportunity.

What would I be giving up or gaining professionally in this battle of tulane vs. fordham?

Any answers?

Wow. You'd really be willing to be apart from your husband for at least 3 years, probably longer?



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I admire the OP's determination.

That said, from his posts, it seems like he's the kind of kid that just doesn't get it. There's an immaturity there. I can't quite put my finger on it but he seems a bit... off.



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Transferring / Re: T4-->? What kind of schools can I get into?
« on: March 04, 2009, 01:30:09 PM »
I am slightly above 30% in my class after my first term at Cooley? What do I need to have second term to have a chance at a T1? What are my chances at 30% at a T1 or T2? :-\

Anything we say is probably pure speculation. The yahoo group transfer apps is supposedly very informative, so I'd check that out. My hunch is that you'd need to be near the very top of your class at Cooley in order to get into a Tier 1 school.

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Ok so since I get called a flame lets please try this again. Its a real friggen post. I dont know why people are so rude on here. Just need some honest advice. I have applied to like 20 schools so far. If people could give me their suggestion on where they think I should apply or their honest opinion of my chances of getting in law school that would be extremely beneficial to me.

I want to be a sports agent. I have met with many agents and professional scouts such as ones with the Portland Trail Blazers. This is no joke or fake thread. I want to pursue a career in this industry for both FIFA and the NFL. I know law school would best prepare me for this career choice.

Just please give me advice and be honest with me on my chances and on where I should go. I said in my previous post that I have had a 3.5gpa or higher for 2 years straight now. My gpa was hurt due to a summer session where I took both Business Stats and Business Math where I got Ds in both. Not because I didnt try, just because I struggle badly with math.

I took my LSAT 2 times. In June 08 I got a 139. In October 08 I got a 140. I prepared hard and took classes and everything. I just cant succeed with the LSAT.

It makes me so mad that a standardized test is going to potentially make or break my life. I have the heart and determination to succeed but I feel like I may not be given that opportunity. So any advice on what to do, where to apply, etc is greatly appreciated.

Once again this is a real post that would like real truthful, RESPECTABLE and meaningful replys. Thank you.

The first thing I want to stress is that getting into law school will not make or break your life. You won't believe me on this point, but eventually you'll realize this is true.

Having said that, I think your chances of getting into an accredited law school are almost zero. If you do get in to a Tier-4 school, you'll probably be paying full price, meaning that you'd end up at least 150k in debt by the time you graduate. That is also an if. Although the LSAT is not perfect, it does correlate to success in law school. Just as the LSAT requires analytical thinking, so does the study of law. To be blunt, if a 140 is the highest you can muster on the LSAT, there is a good chance (and this is particularly so at low ranked schools where students do fail out) you won't meet the school's minimum gpa. None of this is very positive news for you.

I really want to stress that your self worth doesn't hinge on going to law school. I was too short to go into the profession I dreamed of going into as a kid - and it did not "break" me.

Good luck,

TTom

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1L job search / Re: *DUI* on Summer Applications?
« on: March 03, 2009, 11:32:47 AM »
So I have an interesting/terrible dilemma.  My summer externship applications for the AG/City Attorney/District Court(s) have a question at the end that specifically states:  Have you ever been convicted of a criminal offense or do you currently have a criminal case pending? 

I got arrested for DUI 8 months ago.  No charges have been filed yet, and no court date has been set. I have yet to see a judge.  The statute of limitations on prosecution here for DUI is one year.   (Please spare me the insults, I know it was idiotic.)  Is this technically a "pending" criminal case?  I think the general rule is disclose/disclose/disclose, but if I don't have to, I don't want to.  I'm very worried that despite my good grades, I will be overlooked because of it. 

Any advice from the learned LSD population is greatly appreciated. 

You weren't arraigned after being arrested?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Seriously....what gives!?!!!
« on: March 02, 2009, 11:29:30 AM »
Alright, I have been wanting to go to law school for the last few years of my undergrad. I took the LSAT, applied to 9 schools, and got accepted into every school I applied to. While none of them are top 50 (a few T2's and some T3's with $$$) I was really excited about law school. However, reading all these posts saying "You wont get a job coming out of anything below T14" makes me second guess my choice of going to law school. I just can't see how the legal market can be THAT horrible. I have a few friends who graduated law school back in 06' and all of them have meaningful jobs (one went to Southwestern here in LA, a T4, and makes close to six figures). They all tell me that the hype about not finding a job is just that...hype. Yet, they all graduated 3 years ago. Two work in government and the one who went to Southwestern says his firm isn't hiring right now but its only a response to the economy being slow and not an accurate reflection of the legal field. However, all these posts and articles being posted point to the contrary.These posts are really discouraging! Seriously, I'm starting to think I should get an MBA instead of a JD to open up more job opportunities. I would really love to be a lawyer (working for the DA is my goal) and I am thinking of attending Drake because they offered me a decent scholarship and seem to have good employment prospects. But even with the scholarship, including my undergrad loans, I would be graduating with roughly $110,000 of debt. Any thoughts on this whole situation of "not finding a job"?

I haven't seen a single post that says you won't get a job coming out of a school not in the T-14.

That said, you should think long and hard about going to a ttt school. Even for students at the very top of the class job prospects may be limited.

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Transferring / Re: not happy
« on: March 02, 2009, 10:57:43 AM »
OP,

When you say that your first semester grades weren't very good, what do you mean by that? What is your class percentile? Do you have any chance of being in the top 25% of your class after your first year? Also, how much higher ranked is the school you chose not to go to?

My impression is that once you start at a school, the fact that you got into the other school originally is a marginal factor at best when trying to transfer into it. They will have many transfer applications and will base decisions primarily on 1L gpa.

Good luck.

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