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not that state of its own?

cute :)

nah. DC. Although I used to live in the state of its own a long time ago. pretty state.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: What are you wearing right now?
« on: May 11, 2005, 10:54:52 AM »
ooh i just checked and i'm wearing the shirt in my avatar! weird!

close. Washington.

I tried to go onto my roof and check out the action, but it was locked. Good view, too. :(

Law School Admissions / Re: Need a straight answer
« on: May 11, 2005, 10:11:03 AM »
yo - here's how it works. Any grade that's on your transcript--no matter what your school does with it--is calculated by LSAC. However, if your school actually erases the old grade (or replaces it with an 'R' or something similar), there's nothing for LSAC to calculate, and they will only use your new grade. Incompletes I think are generally calculated as an F--get them cleared up before you send the transcript! Withdrawls are fine (I had plenty) as long as your school doesn't indicate that you were failing the class before you withdrew--those are calculated as F's too, I believe.

"No credit" can go either way. If your school intends it to be a punitive grade, it's calculated as an F. If your school doesn't give them a negative weight, then I don't believe it's calculated.

I retook a class and had the old grade replaced--the old grade is replaced with "R" on my transcript and was ignored by LSAC.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: 'BigLaw' Who Wants it? Who has it? Why?
« on: May 11, 2005, 07:55:16 AM »
It seems to me that the Biglaw jobs are filled by people who haven't had a "real" job yet, are swayed by the fancy lunches and courtside tickets, and don't yet realize how little time for a social life working 70 hour weeks + saturdays leaves you. That's 8am - 8pm M-F. Plus 8am - 6pm Saturday. When do you think you will be able to enjoy that $125k salary they offer? 1 day a week? I would rather work as a garbage man or a janitor than work 70 hours a week and have no life.

Most people in biglaw (and lawschool for that matter) have a couple years of work experience before law school. Often, that work experience is what gets them hired because it's relevant to something the firm does. Nobody pretends the hours are great, but some people actually enjoy being a lawyer (gasp!). If you enjoy what you do it's not so bad.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: 'BigLaw' Who Wants it? Who has it? Why?
« on: May 11, 2005, 06:48:32 AM »
I go to georgetown. They tell us that 50-65% of students each year get jobs through 2L OCI... I'm guessing that the majority (but not all) of those pay 125k.

The general rule about class standing is that there is no general rule. It varies by school. I've heard complaints that if you're not in the top 1/3 at BC you'll have a tough time getting the 125k jobs. But of course, I don't know this firsthand since I don't go there. As far as BC's USNEWS figures, just remember that not everyone goes into private practice. It's usually between 60-80% at any school. So half of that number making 125k or more doesn't seem unreasonable.

Snuvy: thanks! If you look anything like your avatar, then you're adorable too! ;)

Incoming 1Ls / Re: 'BigLaw' Who Wants it? Who has it? Why?
« on: May 10, 2005, 05:39:58 PM »
Tater- From what I've read it's pretty tough to get a summer job after 1L.  Can you give us any advice?

There's two kinds of jobs for first summer. Law firms and everything else. (this is oversimplifying it but not by a ton). The standard advice for law firms is to get really good grades, but I think more realistic advice is that it's just random and the more interviews you can get the better chance you have. I got hired by one out of the six firms I interviewed with; it's by far the best of the six, but I still got big fat rejections from the other five. I probably didn't interview well at some, or they didn't think I'd come back after law school maybe.

For all the non-law firm jobs, it of course helps if you have a connection somewhere, but things don't get really serious until february or so, which is when most places start looking for law students. A lot of schools give fellowships to students taking unpaid work. There are international internships you can do. Lots of government work if you're in the DC area, and local government/non-profit work for everywhere else. You could do work in-house for a corporation, too. Or you could be a research assistant for a law professor.

The point is to just get legal experience on your resume. There's really nothing that looks better than anything else, as long as you had a legal job. After that it's a function of what type of experience you want and how much (or little) you're willing to be paid.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: 'BigLaw' Who Wants it? Who has it? Why?
« on: May 10, 2005, 03:59:01 PM »
I'm working at a biglaw firm this summer. Haven't started yet, so I can't speak to the specifics of the day to day (summer isn't day-to-day anyway, it's like a big party). But I'm excited.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Calling All Gay Guys!!
« on: May 09, 2005, 07:25:25 PM »
Notre Dame and BYU are off limits. Liberty too if you're into that sorta thing.

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