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Current Law Students / Re: Bad Grades....
« on: February 08, 2009, 12:09:34 PM »
It's ugly for everyone, but not equally.  Many firms went on hiring binges in the mid '00s and are now way over-staffed.  This is especially bad for firms who do most of their business with wall st and big finance.

These are happening all around and I think they're pretty unfair.  The deal is that firms that don't want to end up on very public layoff lists are secretly letting associates go for "performance-related" reasons.  It's hard to argue that any lay-off isn't performance related to some extent (after all, you don't get rid of your top performers)... but it seems to me that there's an element of unfairness in pretending like people you're letting go are really being fired for failing miserably when, in fact, it's the partners who failed to make a profit.

Also, this article is pretty accurate:

It's hard to deal with zombified stealth layoff victims at work, especially if they're friends and colleagues.  What is worse, however, is not the empathy you feel... but that each of these people is a reminder that the firm is not doing well and that you could be next.

Life in big, middle and average law is pretty depressing right now.

Current Law Students / Re: Bad Grades....
« on: February 08, 2009, 12:00:24 PM »
sounds like you've made up your mind, so that's cool.  good luck.  law is definitely not for everyone.  in fact, these days it's not for most people... things are pretty ugly out there.

Current Law Students / Re: Bad Grades....
« on: February 08, 2009, 10:22:26 AM »
Leave of absence seems reasonable... I mean, what's the downside?  It just gives you more time to consider what you want to do and to find something else. 

BTW:  Law school pretty much sucks for everybody.  Also, being a lawyer... according to the lawyers I work for... has very little to do with the law school experience.  In other words, don't think it would be like this for your entire career.  It wouldn't.  There are lots of other aspects to being a lawyer (both positive and negative) that have nothing to do with the law school experience.

That said, I too find the arbitrariness of the judicial system to be somewhat disappointing.  Our system of "justice" leaves a lot to be desired.  That can either motivate you to change it or motivate you to get as far away as possible from it... either reaction is pretty understandable in my view.

Current Law Students / Re: Bad Grades....
« on: February 08, 2009, 08:04:15 AM »
I don't think you have to read each and every case to be ok.  I got an A in a class I stopped reading for in October.  I didn't make my own outline either. I read for another class pretty diligently (almost everything), did my own outline and ended up getting a B.  Until I got my grades back this semester I didn't really believe it, but I think there's a lot of truth to what people say about there being no real recipe for success in a law school class.

Yeah, that makes sense.  and I'll bet the american employees shipped overseas will only have jobs long enough to train the locals.  this is exactly what's happened in every other outsourceable field.  lucky for those of us in the legal profession, they'll always need a few citizens around to sign and file official documents.  otherwise there would be no reason to move everything to India like some companies have done with their R&D.

that's capitalism, i don't know why it should be surprising.

"Your classmate's reactions all depend on how YOU present yourself."

Anybody who's lived on earth for a while knows that's not true.  Here's the deal: your classmates don't matter.  Let them think you're an axe murderer or Kim Jong Il's favorite sex toy.  they just don't matter.  f*ck them.

Current Law Students / Re: If you get a C in the lower T14, are you done?
« on: February 07, 2009, 05:16:54 PM »
Wally's definitely one to keep a thread or two alive.  It's frankly hard to imagine what cyberspace would be like without his neuroses.

You give my virtual life meaning, Wallace Stevens. 

Current Law Students / Re: Bad Grades....
« on: February 07, 2009, 05:08:28 PM »

Check out the above.  I made me feel better during finals.  Buck up, man.  I'm sure you still want to be a PI lawyer more than you feel that you do at the moment.  This really isn't the end of the world and you can definitely bounce back.  Many people start slowly and ultimately finish well. 

Majmun makes a great point about IP.  There should be a lag between when the crisis hits the rest of the economy and when it hits IP since the latter is so dependent upon long-term research projects.  The second point is also a good one.  There is an inherent advantage in IP prosecution because those who are qualified to do it are relatively few.  Things will undoutedly get worse, but it will be interesting to see if they're better in IP than in other legal sub-fields.  The feeling on most IP boards is that it IP will fare relatively well... but nobody's seen an economy like this before.

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