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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Which CA T2?
« on: December 20, 2008, 02:33:09 PM »
I have friends that have gone to both schools and now have great jobs, so I think LA placements are probably comparable. My pick would be Loyola based on their public interest programs and placements. My wariness of Pepperdine stems from the high value they place on their Christian (and arguably) conservative mission. Did anyone else see the professor who was outspoken enough to put himself on TV advocating for Yes on Prop 8?
I believe the Prof. in question is a certain Dean Kenneth Star of Clinton fame.  He'll be arguing in front of the CA Supreme Court to invalidate the 18,000 marriges that occured prior to the vote. 

I vote LOYOLA!!!!!!!!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: February LSAT
« on: December 20, 2008, 02:21:28 PM »
Ahhhh, It ALWAYS puts a smile on my face!!  I don't know what it is about you Julie??!!  I guess I just love funny/clever ladies.

Law School Admissions / Re: Pick one of two...
« on: December 14, 2008, 11:54:59 AM »

Loyola-LA, Pepperdine?

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Question regarding Feb LSAT
« on: December 09, 2008, 07:33:58 AM »
than what?

Genius!  Simply genius!!  Each day my heart grows fonder. ;D

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Question regarding Feb LSAT
« on: December 07, 2008, 06:26:27 PM »
february tes be hardest ever.
Julie, I swear to you that I was looking over this site specifically waiting for this post from you!!!  Seriously!!!... I think I'm in love.  PLUS, I'm now taking the Feb LSAT test.  You make me happy. :-*

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Mechanical Pencils NOT ACCEPTED??
« on: December 05, 2008, 06:11:16 PM »
It's not so much the lead they are worried about, but the mind control chips located just below the erasers.

Matlock, thanks for the great advice and I will certainly heed your advice. I am even more excited about pursuing my goals after reading your response to my queries.
No problem, my pleasure.  You can always feel free to PM me if you have specific questions as well.  I don't know everything, but sure have learn a lot these past few months.

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: please help
« on: December 01, 2008, 11:23:35 PM »
Go to the following web site:

Use the Schools tab and then choose the various schools you're looking at.  When you then click onto a particual school, I recommend the "graphs" tab.  There you can view previous years admitting data for those who were regiestered on the site.  Breaks it down by gpa/lsat and is nicely displayed. There's tons of other useful stuff as well.  Just play around, you'll figure it out.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: first time taking LSAt
« on: December 01, 2008, 10:04:25 PM »
I recommend you first read the first 3 posts off this thread from Earlcat.  (That is one bad ass cat)  Anyway, I believe that will answer all your questions to get you started.

Hello.  I feel I can add something here.  I'm 40 years old, living in Los Angeles, and looking to start law in the fall of 09. Congrats on logging on LSD for help.  A wise choice.  She can be a sassy lady, but most on here are very helpful.

First CBE accredited schools.  I believe these are what you are refering to.  These schools cater to the non traditional students and offer part time programs at night for 4 yrs.  This is a link to UWLA which has a campus in the west valley and one by LAX. This school I believe also has a FT day program for 3yrs as well.  Another school I know is the University of Glendale College of Law.

The Good: You do not need to sit for the Baby-Bar.  And yes, this is considered even harder than the actual bar.  Most of these schools are on-line programs.  The reason for the BB-Bar is that the LSAT is not required for these schools.  Neither is a college degree for that matter.
Anyway, CBE schools do require the LSAT, but a 143 or above and you're in.  You also don't neccessarily need a bachelors degree either, an AA or 60-80 CLEP credits suffices.  They cost about 1/2 what the ABA charge and at UWLA if you score a 150 or above on the LSAT, they'll give you a 1/2 ride.

Now, THE BAD:  No federal financial aid.  All private loans and most schools, UWLA being the exception, offer no scholorships.  The CA Bar passage rate is below 25%.  What good is the degree if you can't practice.  For five years, once licensed, you will only be able to practice in CA.  After that, about 1/2 to 2/3 of the states will let you sit for their bar if you are in good standing.  The career placement centers at these schools, if any, are nothing but glorified Craigslists.  The networking of alumni that most students utilize at their schools is slim to say the least.  UWLA touts the have 100 sitting judges in LA. A tiny drop in the bucket.  Can anyone succeed.  Yes.  Some have made it work and work out well for themselves.  But the numbers are miniscule.  Your law degree will always be on your resume and for good or bad, the school you go to has a stigma attached.  Let me put it another way.  Look up on the various threads here what people say about a T4 school in Michigan, Cooley.  Cooley would be considered the Yale/Harvard of the CBE world.

The more research I did, and yes, many here came to my rescue, the more I realized an ABA school is the only logical choice for me.  I too have a family, and even though it will cost more, it's an investment I can't afford not to make.  As a result, I am studying my ass off for the damm LSAT.  Part-time ABA night programs are a little more forgiving on the GPA/LSAT scores, but not by a huge amount.  I'm lucky in the fact I at least have my B.S. already.  I do adimire your courage in finishing your degree.  There just is too much money involved to make any poor decisions here.

Study hard, do some research, and good luck to you.

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