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Oh, there are entire threads supporting the bringing of mommy.
I don't know maybe you hate your parents and don't want to be around them but personally I have a good relationship with my parents. They were interested in my life and wanted to learn more about what I was doing I don't see anything wrong with that. Besides they might be helping me out financially while I'm in school and are curious about where their money could be going. I don't see what's so criminal about either of these things.
Amendment to above rule.... If you take mommy with you to a strip club, you can take her to the open-house.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Feb. LSAT Roll Call! Who's in?
« on: January 27, 2009, 05:15:36 PM »
february test be hardest ever.

Good God that sounds pathetic!!  New rule, if you have to bring mommy, you don't belong in law shcool.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Feb. LSAT Roll Call! Who's in?
« on: January 21, 2009, 09:03:01 AM »
I'm in!!!  Held off in December and now all chips are on the table!

FWIW Nouemen, take the test!!!  You seem to have this logic thing down.

Matlock, you flatter me. Lest my ego, which has been stroked so beautifully by you, surpasses itself and leads me into Hardenbergh Hall on test day, I will hereby remove myself from further viewing of this thread.  ;D

Good luck to all of you. I have now declared myself a defector.


Damn... sorry Ms Julie Fern, but I think I've found new love.  (Sigh) Feb test will be the hardest ever......

bncounter6 is correct.  No matter if it was a CBE school, unfortunately those credits will not transfer. so at the very worst, I hope you didn't dole out too much $ if you're interested in getting back to an ABA school.

As for re-applying, I don't believe it would be a problem.  Are you not interested in your former school?  I would think a talk with the administration there would be helpful.  DON'T take the Baby-bar.  I understand it to be as hard or harder than the actual Bar itself.  I was under the impression that the baby bar was just for those schools who didn't require the LSAT.  Assuming you were in an ABA program before,  your bachelors is a given.  CALL your former school and see what they say.  Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions.  I studied this topic here in SoCal when I first considered law and have some opinions on the topic.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Feb. LSAT Roll Call! Who's in?
« on: January 19, 2009, 07:28:05 PM »
I'm in!!!  Held off in December and now all chips are on the table!

FWIW Nouemen, take the test!!!  You seem to have this logic thing down.

Can I bring my mom?  "We" have some concerns.

Law School Admissions / Re: Feb 1 -- too late to apply?
« on: January 16, 2009, 05:06:08 PM »
Well, Yes... No.... Depends.  First, what are the cut-off dates for applications at the schools you want to attend?  If they're not until Feb-March-April, depending on your #'s, I'd say you'll be fine.  Over half the applications, from what I've heard, roll in starting in January.  It's always better to apply early, but people get in late all the time as well.  Your chances are just better early.

Once again, without knowing your stats, it's too hard to say.  Goto, look up the schools you want to attend, look at last years data, and see if anyone with similar stats got in.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Non-ABA versus ABA
« on: January 08, 2009, 11:16:59 PM »
It's late and I just finished a 4hr LSAT study session on LG's so I just copied this from a post I made earlier.  I too was looking at this situation when I first started considering applying to law schools.  Now, it's ABA or the highway as far as I can tell.  Here you go:

First CBE accredited schools which are California Bar accredited schools. (I believe a few other states have some as well, but not many)  These schools cater to the non traditional students and offer part time programs at night for 4 yrs.  This is a link to UWLA which has a campus in the west valley and one by LAX. This school I believe also has a FT day program for 3yrs as well.  Another school I know is the University of Glendale College of Law.

The Good: You do not need to sit for the Baby-Bar.  And yes, this is considered even harder than the actual bar.  Most of the schools that are Non-ABA aproved are on-line programs.  The reason for the BB-Bar is that the LSAT is not required for these schools.  Neither is a college degree for that matter.  Anyway, CBE schools do require the LSAT, but a 143 or above and you're in.  You also don't neccessarily need a bachelors degree either, an AA or 60-80 CLEP credits suffices.  They cost about 1/2 what the ABA charge and at UWLA if you score a 150 or above on the LSAT, they'll give you a 1/2 ride.

Now, THE BAD:  No federal financial aid.  All private loans and most schools, UWLA being the exception, offer no scholorships.  The CA Bar passage rate is below 25%.  What good is the degree if you can't practice.  For five years, once licensed, you will only be able to practice in CA or a state any other state that accepts the degree. NOT MANY DO!!  After that, about 1/2 to 2/3 of the states will let you sit for their bar if you are in good standing.  The career placement centers at these schools, if any, are nothing but glorified Craigslists.  The networking of alumni that most students utilize at their schools is slim to say the least.  UWLA touts the have 100 sitting judges in LA. A tiny drop in the bucket.  Can anyone succeed.  Yes.  Some have made it work and work out well for themselves.  But the numbers are miniscule.  Your law degree will always be on your resume and for good or bad, the school you go to has a stigma attached.  Let me put it another way.  Look up on the various threads here what people say about a T4 school in Michigan, Cooley.  Cooley would be considered the Yale/Harvard of the CBE/Online Non-ABA world.

The more research I did, and yes, many here came to my rescue, the more I realized an ABA school is the only logical choice for me.  There just is too much money involved to make any poor decisions on a matter such as this.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: ITT: Fast Food Awards
« on: December 30, 2008, 07:59:17 PM »
In and Out - Best Burger and Fries.

Panda Express - Best fake chinese

Chipoltle - Best Mexican

... and I don't believe in the devil.   8)

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