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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: WUSTL vs. Vandy
« on: October 14, 2009, 08:36:34 PM »
Vandy.  WUSTL is an oddity for placement in average times.

2.  Terrified I bombed two finals, which will obliterate my otherwise solid GPA.

Yeah, I wasn't sure of that.  I'm actually from Illinois, so I knew I was in-state when I was deciding.  For some reason, I had it in my head that it was one of those that makes it easy to get in-state.  Sadly, I'm often full of it.

Take the $$ and run.  WashU is king in St Louis and Chicago.  And cheap cost of living to boot.

I think all 3 schools are so good that choosing one or the other won't make a ton of difference.

This is wrong.  As GULC already indicated, WUSTL is definitely not king in Chicago.  It's respected, but not king.  I'd toss it in with all the other solid schools vying for spots in Chicago, but below UIUC (UIUC just has some powerful placement ability in Chicago due to alumni).  From OCI, my estimation of Chicago placement is:  Chicago > NW/Michigan >> Illinois > Other solid midwestern schools (Minn, ND, Wisconsin, Indiana-Bloomington, WUSTL, etc.) > Kent/Loyola/Depaul >>> NIU/JMLS.

I wouldn't even go far as to call it king in STL.  Its rep goes far and it's a good school, but there are a number of firms that look suspiciously at WUSTL.  STL is a secondary market where ties are not required, but they are often important.  Kids at WUSTL do great if they are in the top 1/3 or so or have ties, but anywhere outside that without ties and things can get dicey.  Not impossible, just tough.

I'd say Michigan in a heart-beat, especially if you are looking at Chicago and want the best options.  If you want to go with money, I'd go UIUC for Chicago (unless you just fall/fell in love with WUSTL) -- I think you'll be eligible for in-state after your first year and the alumni network in Chicago for UIUC kids is pretty strong.

Just to add a Michigan student's perspective, I credit everything CLS said.  I was going to write more, but anything I wrote would be redundant.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: WUSTL or University of Minnesota
« on: March 19, 2009, 04:22:34 AM »
I'm only mentioning this because you indicated such a strong preference for Chicago: if you got into Illinois, leverage these scholarships against them for money and go there.  In Chicago, firms (and maybe other employers too) will go further into U of I's class than they would at most of the other solid surrounding schools trying to feed a certain percentage into Chicago.  In addition, it's not as cold and the COL is very reasonable (my hometown is near Cham-bana). 

My understanding from OCI was that the chain of command in Chicago looked something like this (not including HLS and other T14 schools which do not predominantly target Chicago):

Chicago > NW/Michigan >> Illinois > Other solid midwestern schools (Minn, ND, Wisconsin, Indiana-Bloomington, WUSTL, etc.) > Kent/Loyola/Depaul >>> NIU/JMLS.

Others may have different opinions, but this was the feel I got.  Even if you don't want to do firm work, my guess is that Illinois will go further in a lot of areas.  The alumni network for Illinois in Chicago is quite strong.

Current Law Students / Fordham kids, come here
« on: March 18, 2009, 12:58:53 PM »
Never mind.

Sorry about the law question, but I'm relatively sure that other LSDers are working on this, or something like it, right now:

So there's an affirmative act section in the "Special Duties" unit of Gersen's class, but these affirmative acts make no sense.  What do these five cases have in common?

Yania v. Bagin
Weirum v. RKO Radio
Globe Malleable Iron
Soldano v. O’Daniels
Stangle v. Fireman’s Fund Insurance Co.

I dunno.  Anyone know?  Am I just supposed to spot a "I have to use the phone . . . someone's about to kill me!" fact on the exam?

Non-Chicago here, but I recognize Weirum and, for reasons unrelated to 1L curriculum, know it very well.  I bet Weirum (and I vaguely remember Yania) stand for the notion that there's no duty to save someone unless you affirmatively act by creating the risk.  I think Yania dealt with something like this.

Having not taken what seems to be a rather eccentric Professor, though, this could be completely wrong.

Michigan does have a fantastic LRAP, but I'm pretty sure clerks aren't covered.  I think that's standard practice at most schools.

If your only goal is biglaw and you don't care where you live, I'd say Penn.  Philly isn't that expensive to live in, from what I've been told, and you've got the most money.  All will likely do you well to get biglaw.

However, I'd definitely visit.  The numbers are so close to each other that, if you went and liked one school over another, go to that one.  Most will likely match (or come close) to matching Penn.  I'm not sure about Chicago, but I think Michigan would if you really ended up wanting to be here after visiting.

You can't really make a bad choice here.

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