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« on: March 27, 2006, 05:25:31 PM »
Hey everyone I don't usually post here, but I've been an avid reader of this board for a while now. I'm considering GW, and hopefully someone can clarify something for me about the school.
I still don't understand what prospective students mean when they say they visit a campus (in this case GW) and sense an "inferiority complex". This term has been used to describe many schools. What to do people mean by this? Are the staff and admissions office literally bitter? Is the school administration full of pseudo-used car dealers desperate to sell their school to prospective students? Do the students have permanent chips on their shoulders?
Personally, I think its totally appropriate for a school like GW to "boast" about its notable programs, especially to students making choices between a large number of schools.
The inferiority complex to which posters refer is a feeling that they should have gotten into better schools, but were ultimately turned down and thus are now "stuck" at the school they currently attend. Thus there is a sense of bitterness which I suppose comes out when the students talk about their school. They are aware there are better schools out there that they are not attending.
As for students "selling" the school, perhaps it is a way to convince themselves that their decision to attend the school was the correct one. By extolling the virtues of the school to others, they are reminding themselves of the positive aspects of the schools.
Look, anyone attending GW knows there are about 15 schools that are "better". Just like anyone attending Georgetown knows there are 10 schools that are "better". Just like anyone attending Virginia knows there are 6 schools that are "better". So unless you go HYS, you are always going to have some bitter students with inferiority complexes.
« on: March 27, 2006, 10:06:13 AM »
First I want to shout out to SweetTea and FenwaySteve...It was great meeting you guys and hopefully we'll be 1Ls together in August.
Overall I though the Preview Weekend went well. Dean Lawrence speaks very well and I think under his guidance the school with continue to improve. The facilities seemed first class and the students were very warm and welcoming.
I haven't heard anyone mention the actual classes that we were able to sit in on, so I'd like to throw in my $.02. I sat in on Prof. Schooner's (not a sailboat) Contracts class and found his style to be thoroughly engaging. He used a "modified" Socratic method in that while he called on students cold, it definitely appeared to be in alphabetical order, so I think you'd have a reasonable idea of when you would be called on. Nevertheless, some students were more prepared and eloquent than others, and when he opened the floor to responses on the case at hand, several students had worthwhile comments. Importantly, there didn't seem to be any "Gunner" behavior. Of course, I don't know how much of this was a show put on for our enjoyment, but if regular classes are anything like this one, I think this aspect of law school will be enjoyable and thought-provoking.
I wouldn't worry about the apartment buildings they showed you. You can live just about anywhere you want in Washington or Northern Virginia, so by no means should you limit yourself to Columbia Plaza or the Statesman.
« on: March 23, 2006, 05:25:10 PM »
PreLawGeek, I'm an Emory grad who has been accepted to both Emory and UGA. Same username on LSN. I'll most likely be attending UGA with in-state tuition and a scholarship that won't cover more than my books.
I just saw someone post that ATL biglaw firms dig deeper for Emory grads. I think that's probably true. I also think that Emory has better name recognition (though it doesn't extend across the mississippi except for minor exceptions in st. louis and chicago). I know that Emory will also have better technological resources, a better library, and prettier classrooms. Emory's lawns will be manicured immaculately. In general, the students that you meet who choose to attend Emory will be wealthier and more well-traveled. They will boast more ethnic, regional and religious diversity than you have ever seen, and they will be shifted to the political left of UGA's class (though not by as large a gap as one may expect). Atlanta is more cosmopolitan than Athens, but Athens anchors a solid rotation of musical talent, boasts fine cuisine and provides a lower cost of living. You're going to be able to go out for Thai, enjoy seasonal festivals, or see a professional weekday theatre production in both places. A pure guess (from a lifetime resident) would put Athens' cost of living at 75% of Atlanta's.
But let me get to the meat. I see, arguing for Emory, a married contributor from Boston, a contributor who is partially relying on a study that has some unavoidable flaws and an uncomfortably small sample size, and two individuals that ended their posts with "That's what I think" (this and "Here's what I think" at the beginning of a post both enrage me). I probably have very little in common with these people except that I would like to go to law school. Some of them may be smarter than I am and some may be dumber. Hopefully they're all dumber ... but I won't bank on it, especially considering that it's easy for a fellow with a 163 on the LSD boards to feel like he should only speak when spoken to. Congratulations to all of you HLS and yale and stanford folks. I'll try to transfer up to a school that's almost as good as yours if I don't stay too drunk while I'm at UGA.
PLG, as a lifetime georgia resident who has spent a massive amount of time at both places (with the most time, by far, having been spent at Emory), I urge you to consider your options thoroughly. If you go to Emory for law school, you will be surrounded by extraordinarily smart and unattractive people, many of whom maintain an attitude of baseless arrogance. The only think that disgusts me more than an arrogant ugly person is a fat girl in capris. You will receive an incredible education at Emory while never having the opportunity to see a D1 college sporting event. I would argue that the profs at UGA will be as worthy a group of classroom teachers as those at Emory. The Emory profs, I would contrarily argue, will be typically more highly regarded in their academic fields, especially in regards to their published works. In Athens, you will be surrounded by good-looking and energetic young people in a college town. In Atlanta and North Druid Hills, you will be surrounded by wealthy families in a beautiful residential neighborhood and the students will be more ambitious and professional than those at UGA.
Oh, and based on the new data, UGA = 57k. Emory = 153k.
Take into account two things about me before you form an opinion on this post. 1. I come from a middle class family. 2. I spent four years at Emory and part of my decision is based upon just needing a change of pace.
If anyone wants to argue about a point in this e-mail ... including my aversion to the study mentioned above, fat girls in capri pants, or professorial quality at either school, please consider PMing me unless it is something from which you think all contributors to these boards may profit.
~ Hope that helps.
I'm now going to pretend I'm on XOXO...
Mr. Royal, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
« on: March 22, 2006, 04:18:42 PM »
I'll be there...And I promise not to call anyone in the sessions "my colleague".
« on: March 22, 2006, 09:42:05 AM »
PWL'ed yesterday. Amazing turnaround considering I applied in early Feb. and didn't go complete until February 20th.
With all the people here on LSD planning to withdraw I figure I've got a good sporting chance. Applicants are down this year so I think there will be a mad scramble after those first deposits are due.
So here's another little log for the fire - Did anyone else apply to both PT and FT and get put on the PWL? Is it the same waitlist for both PT and FT, and does this mean they are now only considering me for a Full Time spot?
« on: March 21, 2006, 05:03:45 PM »
I emailed UMich a few days ago explaining that I had gotten substantial scholarships at UVA and Penn and was having a hard time justifying attending Michigan at full cost. Dean Zearfoss emailed me back saying she would see what she could do and would let me know ASAP. She seemed optimistic and friendly (in true Michigan fashion). I'll post an update when I hear back.
I did the same mentioning my Duke and Northwestern scholarship offers. However she said there was nothing she could do and cited $145k salaries in NY as a reason not to worry about the cost.
« on: March 15, 2006, 12:15:04 PM »
Wow, that's incredible. You got more in schlorship money from one of the best schools on your board? We're talking scholarships, not financial aid, right?
What was your leverage? It's not like you could waive a Harvard free ride letter in front of them. Did Michigan or NW offer money that Duke didn't?
Do you think I could call up GW and ask for scholarship money b/c Emory offered me 15k per year?
« on: March 15, 2006, 09:13:10 AM »
Emory / GW --- Jewish.
« on: March 12, 2006, 10:57:54 PM »
If that's your picture in the avatar, I'd say go to GW.
See you at the preview weekend!
« on: March 07, 2006, 09:01:58 AM »
Simply not send in the seat reservation? The first seat reservations are due next month, so does it really help out other applicants to go through the trouble of withdrawing?
Won't schools know by the middle of April how many seats they'll have to fill from their waitlists? Yes, I recognize that some people may send seat reservations to more than one school, but I'm sure the schools have reasonably accounted for that.
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