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Black Law Students / Re: SEO Corporate Law Internship
« on: February 24, 2009, 05:09:26 PM »
It sounds to me like SEO is simply trying to shift things into gear. It seems funny that they said a decision will be rendered on March 22, though it could come before or after. That, to me, reeks of negotiation tactics. I don't know why they would introduce such an arbitrary date for any other reason than to receive instant committments and thereby appease their corporate sponsors. I would imagine that the reason for the premature negotiation tactics is the recession and the effect it is having on law firms trying to cut costs. I imagine SEO would be able to leverage its bargaining power by assuring its partner firms that so many interns are lined up from top tier schools. However, I think it is important to note that this effort will without a doubt be undermined due to the fact that between 75-90% of all competitive candidates will most likely not make a decision until they receive financial aid info (which of course will not be until some time in april).

Black Law Students / Re: 2008-2009 Black T-14 Acceptances
« on: February 08, 2009, 05:24:34 PM »
it's been a while since i've posted, but i'm happy to say i've been admitted to yale and nyu

Black Law Students / Re: SEO Corporate Law Internship
« on: February 08, 2009, 05:22:46 PM »
yep, interviewed in chicago this past weekend. interview is at the prudential building, google it and details should come up. anyone with questions, feel free to contact me. but basically it consisted of basic interview questions and a case question. i tend to agree with others on this board who say admission is heavily dependent upon T14 acceptance based on the way my interviewer emphasized the schools to which i have been accepted.

congrats Meesa!!

Black Law Students / Re: 2008-2009 Black T-14 Acceptances
« on: December 16, 2008, 02:35:01 PM »
also, I went complete about a month prior to my acceptance

Black Law Students / 2008-2009 Black T-14 Acceptances
« on: December 16, 2008, 02:31:32 PM »
I figured we should start this board so that everyone applying this cycle has a better idea of where everyone else within their stat range has been accepted. I'll begin...

Michigan Summer Start  
my numbers are:
3.5, 165
came via snail mail during early December

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: CLS 2L Taking Questions
« on: December 15, 2008, 07:29:32 AM »
Thanks for the information Jay...I have a couple more questions to add

1. How often do you go out?

2. How exactly does a firm know one's GPA with the current CLS OCI Process. If the school doesn't inform employers about GPA (and doesn't even inform students of their class rank), is that burden then placed on you as a student? Also, would the employers every see your transcript (AKA is one able to take interesting seminars and still go into BIGLAW?)

3. When you say CLS has a campus feel what exactly do you mean?

Thanks in advance

Black Law Students / Re: Advantages of ED?
« on: November 01, 2008, 02:28:19 PM »
Here is the info from wjking08:

Here's the link if you wanna follow it.,26160.2510.html

Hey all, I am a senior African American Male at prestigious school (not Harvard) in Massachusetts, and I'm in the honors program, my gpa is 3.4 but I've gotten 3.55 and 3.7 the past two terms. I interned at the U.S Senate Judiciary Committee and the U.S Department of Labor the past summer and fall. I just scored a 160 on the LAST, I am a little disappointed and wanted to know the chances of getting into a great school, or should I retake the test?

You'll get into the lower t14, with a good shot at the upper, and reaching at CCN.  Out at YHS.

Here's the link to Lawesome:,26160.2560.html

157 LSAT
3.88 GPA

score is really frustrating.

I see everyone who increases 10-15 pts by studying, and I took 6 months/ 10-15 practice tests and increased a total of four pts. 

Any recommendations on where I should have a good chance? im coming a year early out of undergrad, but worked part time (20-25 hrs.) during school

How much flexiblity can I have because of my high GPA? 
Here is the link from curious1985:,26160.2730.html

Hello all,
This is my first post, and i would greatly appreciate any insight on my application situation...I have read through most of these posts so i think i have an idea of where i might be accepted/rejected by my number alone...I just wanted to ask do my soft factors make a difference? Or are they too average? Please let me know what you think.THANKS IN ADVANCE! 

I sent all of my apps out by 12/1 [I do not know if that is early enough for admissions committees to take a chance on me] and I think my chances of acceptance to...

HYS...virtually none
t4-t10...maybe 1, but a very slim chance
t10-t14...maybe 1 or two, but still a slim chance
14-20...good chance at all
20-30...should get into most

top 20 undergrad
history of socio-economic disadvantage

All of the info I gathered has been from this site, because I don't believe that LSN is any more helpful than the US News and World Report (nope, not even for minorities). I believe that the cloak of anonymity covers factual information that even minorities feel more comfortable sharing on a site such as this one. That said, the top two LSD members whose info i've posted above were admitted to CLS C/O 2011 as evidenced by their signatures with the law school name in them. I had to look at curious1985's past posts to find out that he was accepted to CLS (and no i'm not trippin, i did this bc we have similar softs...)

But yeah, from this info, i gather that admissions to CLS for AA is not properly gauged from looking at LSN where it seems like every body and their mother has 175+s and 3.5+s. Clearly, that is where a self-selected sample of type-A personalies and good test takers go to flaunt their acceptances and thereby make themeselves feel more confident. It seems as this site has a more laid back vibe and that's why I think more people open up about their real stats here.

Black Law Students / Re: Advantages of ED?
« on: November 01, 2008, 10:53:31 AM »

I'm a new poster to this site too, but I was looking through the past posts and came across 3 black individuals during last year's cycle with the following numbers who were admitted to CLS:

Lawesome: 3.88, 157
Wjkings08: 3.4, 160
curious1985: 3.3,160

I was thinking about applying ED too, but when I saw that each of these three individuals was admitted during RD, I decided against it. If you already attend an Ivy League school, your chances will be much better anyway.

Just my two cents.

Good look with the process


I want to discuss an issue that has been perplexing me for quite some time with my fellow-achievers and like-minded people. I am wondering which path is the best path for someone who is public-interest minded and believes in giving back. I have been trying to decide what specific field of law I would like to pursue once I enter law school next year and I have come to a crossroads. I want to do as much as I possibly can to help those who can't pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

That said, I have settled on the notion that there are two extremes when it comes to the public-interested based career. One can choose to be the "community organizing"/legal aid clinic/clerkship-securing individual who believes that change comes by altering the minds of those in power or one can choose to be the hungry, voracious business type who decides to take power by any means necessary. I haven't quite decided which one of these types I identify with more, but as more and more time passes, I am beginning to think that the latter(business path) is a more effective means by which to effect substantial change than the former.

Thinking back on some of my favorite song lyrics, I recall Jay-Z saying, "I can't help the poor if I'm one of them so I got rich and gave back. To me that's the win-win." I think about this quote in the context of the aforestated issues that I've touched upon and it seems clear to me that the business way is the best way. Further support for the business/economic way is that near the end of his death, MLK was just beginning to state that the struggle going forward into the 20th and 21st century would shift into a much less discernible one, one more heavily-slanted toward economic disparities. Needless to say, he was correct. I can think of countless AA that I know who are struggling to put food on the table and are on that paycheck to paycheck tip.

I could go on forever, but I think everyone get's the gist from the info above.

My current plan is to get money and give back/I think I may be too results-oriented to go into Public Interest Law, where everything probably feels like an uphill battle......just wondering how everyone else feels about this...

Black Law Students / Re: SEO Corporate Law Internship
« on: October 13, 2008, 04:21:49 PM »
Question for anyone who has participated in the Corporate Law Program:

What are the benefits beyond the pay? It seems to me as though after income taxes and rent one wouldn't be left with more than about 6 or 7gs for a 10 week stint. I say this bc I have a friend who did SEO in asset mgt and told me so much...any other reasons for doing it? what type of networking does it expose you to? how significantly does it accelerate your law career?

thanks in advance

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