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The only thing to worry about is future employers. Some positions will ask for your UG transcript after 1L because they interview before grades come out.

that is kind of upsetting if true, but how could I interview for a 1L summer position without knowing if I am top 10% of my class or not? It's not something I would waste my time with unless I know for a fact I did very well and have the official grades, because if I interview and do all that jazz and then wind up with mediocre grades, there is no chance I would get a summer internship my 1L anyway.  But still, I'm not too happy about what I did.

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If you are really worried about Miami maybe write them a short letter explaining the circumstances or what have you.  I think all law schools require an official transcript sent directly from your UG in or around August.  It's not one of those things where they only see it if you choose to update them kind of things.

But in general I would not worry at all.  It's still high for Miami and doing well in law school will trump a single semester of law school. 

Good luck!

i don't have any circumstances. I was an idiot and thought I could slack and still do fine, and I obviously could not. There is no explanation that would be valid to them, so i don't even want to tell them unless they ask me about it. And if they do ask me, I will be 100% honest. There is nothing worse then getting caught lying or making false excuses in a profession that is based completely on honesty and ethics.

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I think you'll be fine to not have your acceptance pulled, but transferring to Columbia might be more problematic...

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lol,  well honestly I didn't worry about that because I highly doubt I would ever be able to transfer into that school anyway, it's just so damn hard to get into. And if worse comes to worse and they won't take me soley because of my final spring grades and not because of law school grades, im sure ill be high enough in my class at Miami to secure a nice biglaw job in Miami.  :) But as of now, I'm just really concerned to make sure my admission to Miami is safe at least.

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I'm worried that I might get my admission pulled. When I applied, I had a 3.6 GPA. This semester I got a 2.6 GPA (2 B's, a B-, and a C-). But i took a 12 credit load instead of 15, so my cumulative is at a 3.48 right now, and this is my final college GPA, im gradutating with a 3.48. Should i be worried, because this semester was substantially lower than any GPA i've ever gotten (i got a 2.9, but that was 1st semester freshman year, past that ive never gotten below a 3.5. Should I not worry since my cumulative is still fine, or is a bad final semester going to make them pull me from the school I haven't even started at yet?

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Schools like Yale, UNC, Harvard etc. may be off limits to you because they look at your LSAC and undergrad gpa also. Most schools you transfer too only look at your 1L grades but certain schools say that you must have been a competitive applicant since 0L


I checked out Harvard's transfer admissions just for kicks, and it says they consider LSAT. To me, that makes no sense. The LSAT is designed to measure your potential success at law school, right? So if you are near the top of your class, that would be first hand evidence that you are successful at law school, so why should they care about the test that "predicts" your chance of success, when you have already reached that success? Makes no sense.  :P  I am so excited to start at Miami though, I absolutely can't wait to ditch New Jersey and move down there.  :D


If ou manage a kick ass GPA as a 1L the LSAt won;t be looked on as harshly. And it will be tough to be in top 10% as a 1L

the point is that if you want to get into a lot of schools you would have had to be a good canidate as of right now- if you can't even get waitlisted at Harvard than you probably won't get in there as a transfer no matter how well you do- that is Harvards guidline as well as other schools. Some schools don't look at your LSAT but if they mention it in their transfer guidelines that you should re-consider if you couldn't even get defferred or waitlisted at that particular school

And BTW, I wouldn't bet on transferring or making the top 15% of  the class- especially at Miami where the class is so Huge. If you have the mindset to transfer than you should just re-take the LSAT and get into the best school you can

yea im not betting on anything, I have heard how tough it is to  top 15% or 10% and im not assuming it at all. I am so happy I'm going to Miami, and I'd absolutely love to live and work there afterwards. Im not even really considering transferring all that seriously unless I do a lot better than I expected. Most people I talked to (including an attorney in Florida) has told me that U of Miami is pretty much the best place you can go to, to get a Miami firm, unless you are going to a seriously elite place. So im just throwing around ideas here basically, but I'm definately not planning on transferring

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http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/students/index.php/topic,6802.0.html

thanks man, that link seems very helpful.  Very interesting that Georgetown will consider your Fall grades alone as a transfer.  :o

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Schools like Yale, UNC, Harvard etc. may be off limits to you because they look at your LSAC and undergrad gpa also. Most schools you transfer too only look at your 1L grades but certain schools say that you must have been a competitive applicant since 0L


I checked out Harvard's transfer admissions just for kicks, and it says they consider LSAT. To me, that makes no sense. The LSAT is designed to measure your potential success at law school, right? So if you are near the top of your class, that would be first hand evidence that you are successful at law school, so why should they care about the test that "predicts" your chance of success, when you have already reached that success? Makes no sense.  :P  I am so excited to start at Miami though, I absolutely can't wait to ditch New Jersey and move down there.  :D


If ou manage a kick ass GPA as a 1L the LSAt won;t be looked on as harshly. And it will be tough to be in top 10% as a 1L

yea i know it's going to be tough as hell and im not really counting on getting to that level, but I'm gonna give it my best damn try!  :D

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Hah--umass, if you end up at Columbia, you and I will have to go out for a drink sometime. 

at this point it's more of a pipe dream, but I am really taking law school seriously and I'm gonna devote an entire year of my life for doing well my first year. But realistically I highly doubt I would ever get in there, but I have a habit of aiming overly high just in case. If I can't transfer into a top 20 school though, I'm not gonna bother because it doesn't sound worth it.  But honestly I'd be utterly shocked if I wound up transferring into a place like or equal to Columbia. Never hurts to aim for the stars though  :)

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Schools like Yale, UNC, Harvard etc. may be off limits to you because they look at your LSAC and undergrad gpa also. Most schools you transfer too only look at your 1L grades but certain schools say that you must have been a competitive applicant since 0L


I checked out Harvard's transfer admissions just for kicks, and it says they consider LSAT. To me, that makes no sense. The LSAT is designed to measure your potential success at law school, right? So if you are near the top of your class, that would be first hand evidence that you are successful at law school, so why should they care about the test that "predicts" your chance of success, when you have already reached that success? Makes no sense.  :P  I am so excited to start at Miami though, I absolutely can't wait to ditch New Jersey and move down there.  :D

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I have a question for you ColumbiaJD.  I will be attending the University of Miami in the fall, and I was wondering if you had any idea of how hard/if possible at all it would be for me to transfer from there to Columbia? My LSAT was pretty piss poor, but I do plan to work extremely hard as soon as law school starts in case I do decide I would like to transfer.

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