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It might make getting a job easier, but you should still get the grades to help yourself, or have a good personality/interviewing skills. 

well I'm still dedicating my life towards suceeding in law school, but I am always looking for more ways to supplement myself at reaching success in the legal field.  I personally think I am great at interviews and speaking. As long as I am prepared, I can talk fine to anyone even if I just meet them. I don't really get nervous at interviews at all so I guess that might help me?

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Of course you can. Nepotism can get you any job you want, but that'll be a pretty big favor on her part.

she's not just gonna throw jobs at me, she said she would introduce me to her friends, and all her friends are Miami lawyers, so I'd have to make it happen myself. But I figure if I meet like 20 lawyers, all it takes is one that is interested in me and likes me, to take it farther than a 1st time introduction. 

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So I'm going to U of Miami in the fall, and I understand that in order to get into corporate law, I'm gonna have to be damn near top 10% of my class. But as of now, I know a women through my father who is a big business player in the city of Miami, and knows about 3/4 of the lawyers in Miami, mostly business ones.  Do you think if I can network through her and pull my cards right, that I could land a corporate law job without that top 10%, or is the legal industry more focused on grades and school prestige than networking aka knowing people? 

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Generally I've heard that it is hard to get in-house positions until you have experience in the particular field in which the business in question is involved.  I'm not sure why it would be any different for these CDO firms...

i have no idea if it is different or not, i was just curious.   :D Is the only way to get experience in finance/economics on the legal end working in biglaw firms, or are their other ways?

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Derivatives are kind of complicated, if you know about bonds or other "fixed income" type investments, they are similiar to bonds. I'd try to describe it to you but i probably won't explain it right, they are very complicated to even describe. But they are pretty similar to bonds. Basically these are Wall st. type firms, but located all over the country, not just NYC.

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This is probably not the right forum to post this in, but I couldn't really find a better one in here since all the other sections are just about law school.  I have been hearing some very promising information recently regarding obtaining a legal position at a CDO (aka Derivatives) corporation, or firm, whatever they are referred to.  I was trying to found out if it is possible to get an in house counsel job at one of these CDO/Derivatives firms right out of law school?  And if not, what is the best route to take to try to get a job at one of these places? (like what type of position to try to get out of law school).  Thanks a lot.

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Sorry, I dont mean to be an ass, but I don't understand if you are so concerned about getting a job/getting your "offer" revoked, then why did you "slack off"?

because I "thought" I could relax a bit and slack my last semester and still pull of a 3.0>, but I obviously could not.

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The thing is, I did fine fall semester of senior year, I got a 3.5. Even if they do ask me for my UG transcript, is one or 2 semesters of lower grades going to cancel out the 9 or so semesters where I got several 4.0's on a full courseload and several 3.8 +'s? I really hope not.  Truth is, I did very poorly my first semester, and to even get it to the 3.6, it took several 4.0's and 3.8+ semesters, where i busted my butt off. And honestly, i wanted to relax and enjoy my last semester of college. I am leaving college with a smile on my face having had a relaxing last semester, and ready to bust ass once again in 2.5 months when law school starts. That was my plan, take it easy last semester and enjoy the friends ill never see again, so i can be ready to go when school really gets serious (law school). 

Dude, calm down. They don't care. It's perfectly okay.

i really hope so, im having a nervous breakdown over here worrying that it's gonna affect my job prospects regardless of how i do in law school and that would really suck

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The thing is, I did fine fall semester of senior year, I got a 3.5. Even if they do ask me for my UG transcript, is one or 2 semesters of lower grades going to cancel out the 9 or so semesters where I got several 4.0's on a full courseload and several 3.8 +'s? I really hope not.  Truth is, I did very poorly my first semester, and to even get it to the 3.6, it took several 4.0's and 3.8+ semesters, where i busted my butt off. And honestly, i wanted to relax and enjoy my last semester of college. I am leaving college with a smile on my face having had a relaxing last semester, and ready to bust ass once again in 2.5 months when law school starts. That was my plan, take it easy last semester and enjoy the friends ill never see again, so i can be ready to go when school really gets serious (law school). 

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The only thing to worry about is future employers. Some positions will ask for your UG transcript after 1L because they interview before grades come out.

that is kind of upsetting if true, but how could I interview for a 1L summer position without knowing if I am top 10% of my class or not? It's not something I would waste my time with unless I know for a fact I did very well and have the official grades, because if I interview and do all that jazz and then wind up with mediocre grades, there is no chance I would get a summer internship my 1L anyway.  But still, I'm not too happy about what I did.


I just finished 1L. Many of my friends and I were asked for our undergrad transcripts because many firms and judges do ask for your undergrad transcript. I have two jobs this summer (one with a judge and one with a small firm), neither of which asked for a transcript at all. If you wow them in the interview, they may take you without knowing if you have stellar grades.

yea but aren't they going to look at my transcript as a whole? I still have a 3.5, which I guess is a decent undergrad graduating GPA. Would it really matter if there is a semester or 2 of low grades if i was still able to pull off a good graduating one?

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