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huh?  uiuc is a very good school.  if you want to stay in illinois you have a good shot at chicago.  but i suspect you just need some ego-stroking, so i don't have much sympathy for you.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: dozo/irvine/gw
« on: March 05, 2009, 02:57:38 PM »
Irvine will undoubtedly be big dog in OC and will probably be well respected in the LA market as it is in the UC-system. 

Even with their star faculty, that's still a huge if.  The fact of the matter is that they're offering a full ride to the incoming class because they realize what a gamble it is to attend a brand new law school.  You may be right that it will one day surpass UC Davis, but there's no way to tell now.

Keep in mind that New York and SoCal are EXTREMELY different.  Cardozo is an excellent regional school, and you'll have fewer job opportunities available back West if you attend.  On top of that, while Cardozo places decently, it's in a saturated market that is currently hemmoraging jobs.  It's still really hard to argue with a full ride, though.

In your case, I'd probably pick either one of the full rides depending on where I wanted to work after graduation.  GW is a cut above, but as you said you'll be paying significantly more, and you may find yourself stuck in D.C. for awhile after graduating (which is not really a bad problem to have).


the cali placement is definitely an issue if i don't want to stay in nyc.  ideally i would like to do a clerkship then come back west for some work, or work internationally first.  however, i have talked to several alums who got jobs in california immediately after graduation, so its not impossible.  not being able to go to an elite school like GW is kinda heartbreaking tho.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: dozo/irvine/gw
« on: March 05, 2009, 02:56:09 PM »
This is a tough one.  If you are interested in public interest, I'd pass on GW. 

If Irvine weren't in its first year, I'd say go for it.  I'm not really sure what sort of guidance you'd get towards a public interest career there.  An established clinical program would be nice, but I think its almost important to keep in mind that your career is a lot of what you make out of it.  Just because a school offers a nice public interest curriculum doesn't necessarily mean you'll be able to translate that into a career.  You'll have to make your own path no matter where you go.

Also are the requirements for keeping the scholly throughout all of law school relatively the same.  Are they conditioned on a specific GPA? 

NYC is also very expensive compared to Irvine.  Plus you'll be up against a host of other schools in NYC for the same job opportunities.  Irvine will undoubtedly be big dog in OC and will probably be well respected in the LA market as it is in the UC-system. 



the scholarship is fairly keepable- 3.3 (top 40%).  i'm also going to raise my gpa come march so i'm hoping to negotiate at least some $$$ for living which i know they do for some folks.(i have other full-rides and schollys to negotiate with)  the big thing for me with irvine is the lack of programs- i'm absolutely positive that if i excel there i'd be able to get a good clerkship and maybe some work later on, but i'm worried about missing out on a lot of experience in law school and cardozo really stands out in terms of the programs and opportunities they offer during school.

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Where should I go next fall? / dozo/irvine/gw
« on: March 04, 2009, 08:34:17 PM »
which school would you choose?  cardozo and uci are both full rides while gw is probably close to sticker, which is hard to justify given that i'm looking towards public interest or government work.  cardozo has unique programs that interest me and i'd also like to go to nyc.  irvine seems like it might ultimately have a higher rank, plus better faculty, but seems like it might not have the best programs right now.  i'm also from california, so that should be considered.  gw has far and away the best rep of all three.  thoughts?

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Law School Applications / Re: REJECTED, ETC. TODAY
« on: February 18, 2009, 07:53:25 PM »
went to decision on 2/17 according to duke status checker.  do they normally call admitted applicants?  should i be worried about this or just wait and see?  nervous twitters right now.

I went to decision too.  There were a lot of rejections this week but a lot of good numbers that should be auto admit went to decision as well.  People are theorizing that it is likely a bunch of waitlists/rejections.

And I do think they either call or email their accepts, but supposedly not necessarily on the day of decision.

i'm guessing a wl/reject then...even tho a couple ppl with close to my numbers have been admitted already im borderline.  can always hope tho

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Law School Applications / Re: REJECTED, ETC. TODAY
« on: February 18, 2009, 07:04:45 PM »
went to decision on 2/17 according to duke status checker.  do they normally call admitted applicants?  should i be worried about this or just wait and see?  nervous twitters right now.

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General Board / Re: poor lawyers
« on: February 02, 2009, 03:23:16 PM »
A common saying is that "money is the root of evil." My people-experience has proven otherwise. Money can't cripple confidence, can't snuff creativity, and can't kill love near as efficiently or quickly as reticence can. If such a money v. reticence race were run, I would place every spare nickel on that "dark horse" and be confident of winning. What's not said destroys more people than money does, I've found.

The original saying was actually "the love of money is the root of all evil."  If it was just money that wouldn't make sense, especially given the Christian mandate to give charity.  Money is a rather neutral thing, it can be used for good or bad.  A person who chases money and will do anything is prone to do evil in pursuit of that money; a person who does something for its inherent value and gets money incidentally in the process is in a very different situation.

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I'm in a similar situation while not as young as you, I would be 22 when classes start if I choose to go in this year.  The real question you should be asking is not where you will be accepted (that should take care of itself) but are you really willing to take such a tremendous risk/burden on yourself at such a young age?  If law is something that really matters to you and the money (100k+ debt) is okay with you, then go for it.  But if you're uncertain at all you really need to take some time to think over all your options going forward; remember unless you really make some bad mistakes your prospects for LS will only get better the older you are and the more life experience you have. 

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Law School Applications / Re: REJECTED, ETC. TODAY
« on: January 26, 2009, 09:36:09 PM »
waitlisted at hastings today.  this really sucks, im from norcal and it was definitely high on my list of schools that i want to go to.  i know it's not a rejection, but i'm somewhat confused, especially seeing all the people with numbers lower than mine who've gotten in.  can't win them all, i guess.

looking at hastings website about the waitlist is discouraging- if they accept me off the waitlist they will call me and i have to immediately accept their offer or be rejected, which really seems like an unfair strong-arming tactic to me.  i really want to be able to go there, but i also want some choices for where i go.  :/

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Law School Applications / Re: REJECTED, ETC. TODAY
« on: January 26, 2009, 09:34:05 PM »
waitlisted at hastings today.  this really sucks, im from norcal and it was definitely high on my list of schools that i want to go to.  i know it's not a rejection, but i'm somewhat confused, especially seeing all the people with numbers lower than mine who've gotten in.  can't win them all, i guess.

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