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Law School Admissions / Re: Am I Wasting My Time???
« on: May 26, 2009, 05:07:36 PM »
I just wanted to say that in most cases a LOR from a church minister wouldn't be a good idea, but it might actually help in your case. I would still have 2 others from professors/employers though. You might also consider talking to a good admissions consultant (do your research b4 hiring one, there are some scams out there) or if your UG has a good pre-law advisor, talk to him/her. Good luck.

If you do well on the LSAT then you will be in a good position.

Thank you, captain obvious.

Job Search / Differentiating between firms?
« on: May 25, 2009, 05:48:37 PM »
So, I'm starting to think about OCI this fall and the fun process of applying to firms. I have two questions:

1) How do you differentiate between firms? They all seem basically the same to me. The websites all say the same stuff. Is there anywhere to do research on a firm's personality? What are the reasons you have for wanting to work for specific firms?

2) As a follow-up, everyone always says to be able to say why you want to work for a firm in an interview. What have you said in interviews? What kind of answers sound like you're intelligent and what kind of answers sound stupid?

Dude, I think it'd be awesome to go solo. I want to open my own firm after 5 or 10 years. Not sure I could do it right after graduating though, especially since I have like no connections and no previous law experience.

I love that the OP is in "desperate need of transfer advice." I love all the 0L's in need of transfer advice.

The only transfer advice worth giving to a 0L is that you shouldn't be going to a school that you wouldn't be happy graduating from in 3 years. The reasons you've given for attending the school you are set to attend are bad, and you really should withdraw.

Only ~10% of students have the grades after 1L to entertain the transfer thought. Those really aren't good odds to be gambling on, regardless of whatever you do to prepare for exams, whether you waste time trying to prepare before school starts, yadda yadda. So much of the law school grading game is based on luck of the draw with professors, making ANY plans that require top 10% is just foolish.

I say this as someone who is going to be transferring, by the way- I fully acknowledge that my grades have just as much to do with luck as anything else. The kicker, though, is that I would have been happy (and still will be, if Chicago revokes my offer) graduating from my current school.

This is credited.


People like the OP should use the following: hope for the best, plan for the worst. If you wouldn't be ok with being in the bottom half at Michigan State, then you shouldn't go. Obviously it's ok to hope for more and want to transfer (many people do this, including me), but you shouldn't go somewhere unless you'd be alright living in that state after graduation from the school with a relatively low paying job (i.e., 40k a year). Doesn't mean that's your goal, but you need to realize that there's a chance it could happen (possibly greater than you think).

i've been accepted to a few decent lower tier 1 southern schools. i want to be in the south for law school, but i'd like to live in NYC for my first few years practicing law.  i don't have to have a big law job. heck, i don't even need to make more than 50,000 a year (i will not be paying student loans).  i just want to start my career in new york and live there while i'm young!

i know none of these schools have a great future for big law jobs in new york.  but what about jobs at smaller, less reputable firms or other types of law?  are there any opportunities? 

You really need to re-examine your ideas about the cost of living in NYC and what sort of standard of living you're willing to accept as an attorney... you don't 'live' in NYC for less than $50,000/year. If you want to practice in NYC, and you're not looking for BIGLaw, then why aren't you looking at a NYC regional school? Who do you think has better connections and experience placing people in NYC jobs? If you were focused on BIGLaw, then you stand the best odds by going to the best school you can and placing as high as you can in your class. For non-BIGLaw positions, you want the local networking connections...
Good luck,

I concur.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Colorado 1L taking questions...
« on: May 22, 2009, 05:34:10 PM »
so this is mostly directed at Matthies, but others can chime in too.

I'm a rising 2L at a school in Virginia and my wife and I have recently decided we want to move to the Denver/Boulder area (on a permanent basis). I'm originally from Utah and my wife has family in Denver. What's the best way to go about getting a job there? I'm at a T30 school right now and have done well (top 10%) and I might transfer to UVA or Mich. My current school won't have any Colorado employers, so if I stay here I know I'll have to do the work. Any recommendations besides mass mailing? Obviously some of the firms would come to UVA/Mich, but I'd probably still need to do some work. Any suggestions/advice would be great. I'm also interested in clerking.

Job Search / Re: Finding jobs in smaller firms (1L, 2L, post grad)
« on: May 19, 2009, 05:35:48 PM »
anyone kno of other blogs besides ATL and younglawyers that have info about the job market this summer?

What's younglawyers? link?

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