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2L job search / Re: Tell me what firms to bid on
« on: July 03, 2009, 10:46:47 AM »
We have a 30 bid limit?  @#!*.  I stayed up till 4am last night writing cover letters and trying to think of reasons why every single one of those middle-of-nowhere northeastern cities was the perfect fit for me.

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2L job search / Re: OCI Employers by School
« on: July 03, 2009, 10:43:36 AM »
Probably should ask him.

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2L job search / Re: OCI Employers by School
« on: June 30, 2009, 08:35:37 PM »
I don't think a number of firms, by itself, would be very meaningful.

I suggest listing how many NALP & Vault firms are going to OCI.

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2L job search / Best Marketcs ITE?
« on: June 28, 2009, 11:07:55 PM »
Short question:  What markets should someone with no connections and without an amazing resume target?


So, basically, what legal markets are doing the best ITE?  This can include midlaw firms since that's what I'm more likely to land.

Also, how much does having 0 connections to an area hurt you?  I would be happy to work in just about any medium+ size city that will hire me, but I only have connections to NC/Atlanta/DC.  Given that I'm not going to be super competitive, where else should I apply?  I'm looking to cast a wide net.
Since LA/NYC have so many firms, should I go ahead and throw a bunch of letters there and hope one bites?

One of my classmates said that she is not applying outside NYC because she doesn't want to need to tell employers that she is applying elsewhere (so that she can be like "omgomgomg NYC or bust i <3 NY."  Should I consider following in suit and only applying to 1 or 2 markets?

http://www.forbes.com/2008/04/29/cities-recession-places-forbeslife-cx_jz_0429realestate.html
http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/09/recession-economy-cities-business-beltway-recovery-cities.html

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My vote is for looking at other careers.  I am at a T20 with almost a full ride and it's barely worth going, economically.

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General Board / Re: How hard is law school?
« on: June 26, 2009, 02:38:36 PM »
I have a (rising 3L) friend at Emory that goes to classes and spends about 1h/night 7d/w on school (but he does go to 2/3 of the classes, and is productive in the time he does work).  He has like a 2.6 or so.  Failing out at a top-50 school is seriously hard to do if you are as smart as the other students.

I would recommend against picking a school based on the curve as a big factor.

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General Board / Cover letter for mass mailing/question
« on: June 26, 2009, 02:35:11 PM »
Hi.

I am trying to set up everything to mass mail.

I want to individualize things as best I can without putting a ridiculous amount of effort into it (i.e. I am not going to legitimately research many individual firms for this).

My plan is (and I'm halfway done with this) to make a general cover letter, and then edit a few things (1) depending on where, geographically, I am applying to, and (2) depending on what type of job I am applying to.

(1) I have the geography part down and this is not an issue.
(2) I can't figure out a good way to individualize for law firms.  I am planning to separate things into (a) Business Litigation, (b) Transactional Law, (c) Federal Government, (d) state/local government, (e) specific JAG programs, (f) federal GS-1822 (like a detective), and then (g) "other law firms."

I might separate (g) ("other law firms") into (i) biglaw and (ii) mid/small law.  But, I can't think of a good way to individualize for them without doing a lot of research about the firms.  And, for most firms, they have like 20 different areas of practice, and I don't know which are doing well.  My line for B-Lit, for example, is (sorta like): "I want to practice B-Lit, and you dudes are good at it."

Any advice on how to write something similar when I don't actually know what the law firm's specialty is?

Again, there are a few firms OCIing that I will do research on and write specific/targeted cover letters for, but I want to cast as wide of a net as possible, and take a couple hours to apply to non-Business-Litigation/non-transactional law firms.

Also, as a general question, how much should I have the tone of "start my career" vs. "get a job for a summer?"

Sorry for this being very unclear.  Thanks.

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General Board / Re: How hard is law school?
« on: June 26, 2009, 03:27:23 AM »
1L classes are all big everywhere AFAIK, but there might be a few upper level classes that are smaller.  My contract drafting class has 12 people, for instance.

Anyway, profs are slow getting grades back because they are busy, they have to grade things themselves, all the questions are long essay questions, and they have to curve the tests.

We started exams May 21ish and finished May 29ish.  We got all our grades back June 30th or so.

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General Board / Re: Advice: Grades Took A Long Walk Off a Short Cliff
« on: June 24, 2009, 10:44:35 PM »
I really don't think it matters how you do.  You are going to have a JD when you graduate and you're going to have to work your way up.  I think it's so dumb for people to quit something like this halfway through.

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General Board / Re: How hard is law school?
« on: June 24, 2009, 10:23:50 PM »
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81 man, how do you know 14 people in 10%?  I think I know of probably 5.

Haha I have 2 friends that seem to care a lot about other peoples' GPA's that very much enjoy sharing this information with me.  Mostly, they like to rub in my face that lawschool is not a crapshoot.

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