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Your dilemma can be solved by the answer to the following question: Do you honestly feel you can score a high-170 (or 180) with a couple more months practice, or do you feel a couple more months practice would do you no good (and possibly bring down your score)?

Those last few points can be gold...but only if you KNOW you can get them. Answers to questions that would be helpful include:

1) How long have you been preparing for the LSAT?

2) Is there a particular question type giving you consistent problems?

3) How many timed PrepTests have you taken?

4) Are you currently in a state of constant improvement as opposed to being in a state of constant fluctuation?

5) Does your college GPA, coupled with your extracurricular activity, put you in a position to be accepted at a Top 5 school given you have an LSAT score that you desire?

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Careless Mistake Avoidance Advice (Oct. Test)
« on: September 30, 2008, 01:43:48 AM »
"Slowing down to speed up" is solid advice.

I had an LSAT nightmare in which everyone taking the test was stepping on a gas pedal while the proctor counted down "3...2...1...GO" Although we were in a college lecture hall, everyone around me was in a race-car; I looked up and saw the lights flashing from red to yellow to green...

The thing that has helped me the most is active reading. I take a lot of notes, and, more importantly, I take notes that actually help me. As soon as I recognize the main conclusion, I circle it and brand it. Similarly, I mark the spot and draw a side-note when a word, phrase or sentence clarifies the meaning of a passage, regardless of length. I consider good note-taking to be an essential quality of a highly-successful attorney, and the LSAT tests this ability in a variety of manners. I've also discovered this can make some answers seem to jump right off the page at me...

Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT writing sample
« on: September 30, 2008, 01:24:42 AM »
You just have to play a little linguistic tetris

That's a good way of putting it.

I've included a timed essay in each of the last 8 PrepTests I've taken. I'm glad I have, because it's reminded me to keep all writing legible and within the box marked for reproduction.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: My Very First 165 on the lsat today,
« on: September 30, 2008, 01:08:29 AM »
Nice work, you're gettin' to the 170 range.

Here's to having our best performance when it matters most!

Let's Rock!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Logic Games "learnable"???
« on: September 30, 2008, 01:04:52 AM »
I would literally stare at the games for 35 minutes with my heart palpitating, unable to move beyond the diagram. I HATE THEM

I would suggest hiring a private tutor to help you with the Logic Games. I'm confident you can increase your score.

Game 2:
The workshops on Production and Rehearsals can't begin until the day after the second day of the workshop on Lighting. Therefore, there must be two days of workshop on Lighting before the workshop on Production and Rehearsals can begin, on Day 3 or later. Note that there is no information from this rule alone that allows us to determine whether there will be a third (or fourth, etc.) day of the workshop on Lighting, but if there is (are), it (they) could happen on the same day as a workshop on Production and Rehearsals.

Game 4:
Rule 6: "Harlan is not assigned to the Oceans Panel if Paul is not assigned to the Oceans Panel."
Here's a question based solely on this rule:
According to rule 6, all of the following may be true except:
A) Both Paul and Harlan are assigned to the Oceans Panel.
B) If Paul is assigned to the Oceans Panel, Harlan may or may not be assigned to the Oceans Panel.
C) Neither Paul nor Harlan is assigned to the Oceans Panel.
D) Either Paul or Harlan must be assigned to the Oceans Panel.
E) If Harlan is not assigned to the Ocean's Panel, Paul may or may not be assigned to the Oceans Panel.


Studying for the LSAT / Re: New- Any advice?
« on: September 27, 2008, 02:46:53 AM »
People have written some pretty solid advice, most of which I would follow. In the end, though, it is you who must decide when you are ready to take the test. From what I've read so far, I'd say wait until December 2008 or maybe even February 2009.

This varies with everyone, but it seems that most people need several months to internalize the techniques tested by the LSAT. It's not a test where one "crams," and then forgets everything he/she studied. It's a test that compels one to think in specific ways, so naturally it comes more intuitively to some than others. 6 months ago I took a PrepTest with no prior knowledge, scored about 138 and missed almost all of the AR (logic games) questions. I almost gave up on the spot. I've worked hard since then, and I started feeling ready to take the real LSAT a couple weeks ago (I'm scheduled for October 4). I've been averaging 165, with a most recent PrepTest score of 170. Now I'm maximizing speed and getting into "the Zone." People will have wildly different study patterns, but nearly everyone will need to spend 3-12 months preparing.

Once you start applying LSAT principles to almost every real-life situation (such as asking yourself "Under which of the following assumptions am I operating by posting a response to this Law School Discussion thread: A..." or "Which of the following, if true, would increase my chances of having a subjectively successful encounter with an unquestionably desirable partner at the upcoming annual Christmas Party, at which there exists a 75% probability of meeting such a subject: A..."), you're well on your way.

As you get more comfortable, take timed full-length Actual, Official LSAT PrepTests in increasingly distracting areas. It's one thing to take a PrepTest at your kitchen table, it's quite another to take one at the local transit center. Taking PrepTests in noisy environments should help build your ability to focus through any annoying distractions that come up during the real LSAT, as well as develop skills that will help you exceed your own expectations regarding your legal career.

Tear it up!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: October LSAT thread
« on: September 25, 2008, 02:20:55 AM »
I've been satisfied with my practice scores, though today I took 2 and on the first one I misbubbled so badly that I lost 21 raw points (all correctly circled in the booklet), bringing my score down by 16. I'm really hoping something like that doesn't happen on test day, but I think it's unlikely I would miss something like that on the real thing...**crossing fingers**

I took what I believe to be my 9th PT today and scored 170, my best showing yet. My previous average was 165. I made improvements in RC by making more notes as I read (22/27), and in LR by doing the same (45/49). I aced 3 of the 4 logic games, but the 4th one kicked my bottom. I was only sure of 1 of the 6 questions (which I misbubbled, my ONLY misbubble to date, can you say ironic?!), so I guessed on the other 5. Amazingly, 3 of my guesses turned out to be correct, so I did much better than I thought (21/24). Raw score=88, shooting for 90+.

I'm entering "The Zone," and I have 2 more PTs to get a couple extra logic games to expand my mind. I feel like a Marathon runner 10 days before the big race...

Studying for the LSAT / Re: October LSAT thread
« on: September 24, 2008, 04:12:37 AM »
I'm taking my first LSAT October 4...

I'm averaging 165 on PrepTests, but I have a tendency to do my best when it really counts. Goal=172. I'm taking 3 more PrepTests between now and game day.

I'm taking Friday October 3 off work, but I will work Saturday night after the test. My celebration will begin Sunday morning as I watch the Chargers beat the snot out of the Dolphins! I will continue to celebrate for the rest of my life...

Studying for the LSAT / Re: My study plan and goals, Input please
« on: September 24, 2008, 03:59:23 AM »
As a side question is there some way to get explanations to the preptests? I have the Actual Official test publications but they don't include explanations

I feel your pain. At first I was bummed the "Actual, Official" preptests don't include explanations, but then I realized it's a blessing in disguise. It makes me work harder to ascertain the cause of my errors.

If you can figure out, without external assistance, why your answer was incorrect, then you'll be that much better prepared for game day. I like to call it "reviewing without a net."

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