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Studying for the LSAT / Re: October 2008 Stories
« on: October 09, 2008, 12:22:48 AM »
Nothing amazingly interesting happened during my LSAT on October 4, 2008, save for the fact that I nearly left my body for a good portion of the test. At some points I could see myself writing but not feel itÖit was awesome! I was so locked into the zone that the easy questions answered themselves while the hard ones looked like scrambled eggs. Itís as if my entire sense of understanding was amplified both positively and negatively; it was nothing like the practice tests. I donít even want to speculate on a score, but I feel I did well. Not spectacular, but not bad. Iím sure I could score at least a few points higher if I was to take it again, but Iím hoping it doesnít come to that!

My test took place at San Diego State University. I found a parking lot and walked to the testing site with a girl who arrived at the same time. As we were walking she noted how strange it was that there were ZERO signs pointing to the location of the LSAT. I told her it was part of the test, and we shared a little chuckle. We got to our target building and discovered the CBEST was being administered there; one of the CBEST people informed us the LSAT was in the next building. Once we got there, the group (about 120 people) was split into 2 groups and my group was led to yet another building. It seemed a little cloak-n-dagger. Once there we waited in line to check in, then went into THE ROOM.

The test itself was surreal and the room was very quiet, but we got stuck with those little desks attached to the chairs. My buddy had the luxury of long tables at his site...lucky!!! Our chairs were relatively squeaky, but once the test started I didn't hear much save for me whispering to myself during a couple long questions. The biggest distraction came from the clock tower, which rang every 15 minutes. 11 AM was a bit annoying, if you know what I mean! The temperature felt fine, but when we got back from break the room felt at least 10 degrees colder. Fortunately I was wearing my jacket, but I saw a couple guys wearing T-shirts and shivering.

I was very interested by the items people brought to the test. I'd say 90% of the test-takers brought a Ziploc bag, and there were a wide variety of objects in those bags. The great majority of those items were what most would consider to be normal. One girl, though, had 2 apples, 1 orange, 2 granola bars, a 20 oz. water, 2 tampons, 2 packages of pencils, at least 2 sharpeners, several erasers, at least 2 watches, and 3 highlighters; each highlighter was a different color. Wow! I imagined her packing her bag..."If I select any apples, I must also select exactly 1 orange and at least 2 but no more than 3 granola bars..." Then there were the 3 or 4 dudes who showed up with nothing but the necessary administrative documents plus a pencil or 2. Nice! My bag consisted of a 20 oz. water, exactly 1 power bar, a watch, 8 pencils, 1 sharpener and a highlighter (which I didn't use).

All in all it was a very smooth administration. The proctors were swell and the lead one read the rules at a nice pace.

Congratulations to everyone who took the test; good luck for those taking one in December!

P.S. My one piece of advice: gradually reduce your allotted time on practice tests so that you can accurately complete them with only 30 minutes per section instead of 35Ö

If you seriously got an LSAT score of 167 with only 10 days of practice, you should try practicing for a couple months and see what score you get. Actually, you should aim for 180 and see how long it takes to get there.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Log Reasoning Experimental
« on: October 05, 2008, 02:02:35 AM »
If you can sneak a peek at the ordering of the sections before you begin, you may be able to find the experimental

This is great advice. Now can you tell me how to cheat on my wife without being caught?

All humor aside, I couldn't tell which AR section was the experimental one on yesterday's test. I thought it was the 1st one, but then the 2nd one gave some pretty unusual rules.

Ace it all and you'll have no worries.

What about Amstel light?  It digests pretty good.

I'd skip the light beer and go straight for the malt liquor...

With a double cheeseburger and some steak fries.

I like the idea of bringing bottled steam, except for the fact that I'd a) Probably use it to impress someone before I ever got in the testing room, and b) Have to hide it in my underwear...

In light of this, I recommend using toothpicks. You can claim they are "hygeine products" and hide one behind your ear just in case.

I almost didn't post in this thread because, according to your argument, if I post in this thread I cannot get a higher score than the one I want on the Oct LSAT. Fortunately, I want a 180.

Quote from: booker09 on Yesterday at 04:05:31 AM
truth be told, i'm not 100% sure if i can make the 6 or 7 point jump i want to make.  for what it's worth, though, i'm willing to sacrifice my social life for another two months lolz. anyway.  in response to your questions..

1) i started studying near the beginning of August (i know, kinda late.  i was taking summer classes to boost up my gpa  )

2) problematic particular q type: LR must be true qs that involve formal logic, and effing long parallel reasoning qs (grumble)

3) i started doing timed PTs about... two weeks ago?  i've only done 6 so far.  (i know, i'm lacking in the full-length PT practice area.)

4) improvement is slow, but then again, i is a slow learnerrrr

5) so i definitely don't have a 4.0, but my gpa puts me in the median range.  (hence, i need a good lsat score.)  and i'm not an Ivy student, either.  but my (overpriced private) school is fairly well-regarded, i think.  well, i hope.
Given this response, I would definitely suggest taking the December test instead of the October one. If you've been preparing for less than two months, I think the extra two months will allow you to reach your goal. More importantly, if you're already scoring low-170s, those two months will give you a legitimate shot at 180. Make sure to use only Actual, Official LSAT questions...

I know what you mean about the formal logic questions and the 600-word parallel reasoning questions (disclaimer: 600 words is an exaggeration). Here's my strategy for the latter: Skip them and do them at the end of the section. I generally finish my LR sections with at least 5 minutes to spare, including the time to complete the effing long parallel reasoning question(s). In my opinion they're a time trap, so I don't even attempt them until I'm done with every other question in the section. Once I get to them, I draw a rough diagram of the question so I have the logic chain on paper in my own words. Then I read through each answer and cross it out as soon as it breaks the logic chain (or adds an extra link). The answer that doesn't break the chain (and doesn't add an extra link) is the correct one. These question types used to be my LR weakness, whereas now I get them right nearly every time. I can also smile knowing many people will waste 5-6 minutes of test time on them, get the wrong answers, and let it mentally affect them for the rest of the section (or maybe even the rest of the test!). I don'enjoy seeing other test takers suffer, but (almost) anything that helps the curve is OK with me!

As a final note, I suggest doing timed PrepTests in distracting environments so you train yourself to focus through nearly any disturbances that could occur during the actual LSAT. I've read some posts in which people claim to take a full PrepTest every day for several days, if not weeks. That may work for you, but for me taking one every 3rd day seems to be just right (Monday, Thursday, Sunday, Wednesday, etc.). I retain my "muscle memory" while I avoid mental burnout. Whatever you do, do it well!!!

Good luck, keep shredding.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: RC Getting Worse
« on: October 01, 2008, 01:31:41 AM »
I usually do not mark the passage, however, and just slowly read through it once (usually takes about 2 mins), then spend the rest of the time on Qs. I have come to realize marking generally slows me down and isn't too helpful, as I can usually keep in mind where cause/effect, author's perspective, and all that jazz is.

My RC scores have increased dramatically since I started "over-marking." I used to miss 5-8 questions per section, now I only miss 2-4. I take a lot of notes, focusing on the main idea of each paragraph. I read quickly while I take notes, and I tend to finish my reading within 2 minutes (as you do). With this strategy, I am able to read the entire passage and paraphrase at least the main ideas simply by looking at my notes. I find it to be very helpful, and it doesn't slow me down a bit. In fact, it speeds me up significantly. Once I finish reading I can attack the questions, confident I've already written down most, if not all of the information that will allow me to properly answer each question.

Additionally, I like to do a quick-read of the questions before I start reading the passage. In more than one instance, I've been able to answer a question (usually #3 or #4) before I even finished reading the passage.

Take notes, but only notes that will actually help you!

Your dilemma can be solved by the answer to the following question: Do you honestly feel you can score a high-170 (or 180) with a couple more months practice, or do you feel a couple more months practice would do you no good (and possibly bring down your score)?

Those last few points can be gold...but only if you KNOW you can get them. Answers to questions that would be helpful include:

1) How long have you been preparing for the LSAT?

2) Is there a particular question type giving you consistent problems?

3) How many timed PrepTests have you taken?

4) Are you currently in a state of constant improvement as opposed to being in a state of constant fluctuation?

5) Does your college GPA, coupled with your extracurricular activity, put you in a position to be accepted at a Top 5 school given you have an LSAT score that you desire?

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