So it's better to get drunks and child molesters out on the streets than it is to take off your clothes in front of someone? Thank God I'm an atheist; at least we have moral standards.
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You're going to end up $150,000 in debt, hanging out at the courthouse hoping to make $100 from the local PD office by defending drunk drivers and child molesters. If you're hot, you could make a lot more as a stripper, with much higher job satisfaction, and skip the law school debt. Enjoy.
« on: October 08, 2010, 09:14:46 PM »
BTW, CJScalia -- Why would your prof warn against taking the patent bar exam? It is required for patent prosecution. For litigation, being registered to practice before the USPTO is certainly not a deficiency. Studying arcane procedures for this exam is tedious and mind-numbing but everybody I've talked to recommends passing it before starting law school.Yeah, that's kind of screwed up. Passing it before you go to law school will help you immensely in getting patent-related summer jobs.
« on: October 08, 2010, 09:04:08 PM »
Criminal defense is easy to get into. Be a mediocre student, get no job offers, do some internships with a county prosecutor's office, hang out with the druggie crowd, graduate, pass the bar, and set up shop. Sit around the courthouse and throw her card at the gang members waiting their turns in the dock. She'll be rolling in DUI defense and begging for leniency for child molesters before she knows it.
First off, the patent law market is just as sluggish as the rest of the legal market now. Maybe more so, since as a "lawyer" you can go do whatever the hell you want, but as a "patent attorney", every law firm you talk to will pigeonhole you as someone who should only be hired for patent work.
Second, avoid Boston U like the plague. It's a bad experience all around. The school admin goes out of its way to make life miserable for students. Even getting a complete and correct transcript from them for submitting to the USPTO was a giant pain in the ass, and if I hadn't had one from when I graduated, I'd be utterly screwed because they changed the format to no longer show course credits from high school AP classes.
Third, I'd look carefully at FP. I know their reputation in IP is supposedly high, but that means a lot less to law firms than USNWR makes it seem. Especially when it comes to IP, you have to remember that a lot of experienced patent agents used to be sent back to law school by their firms, and they'd go to places like FP or John Marshall in Chicago. (In the 2005 NALP survey, JM placed about 5% of its grads into biglaw. Want to guess how a T4 does that? They're "wired" candidates who already had a biglaw job waiting for them when they APPLIED to part-time night school.)
IMHO, your best path would be to skip law school for now, take the patent bar, and go find a job as an agent for a couple of years. A lot of law firms are now going after agents instead of attorneys because the agents won't ever be allowed to make partner -- they're employees forever, unless they go back to law school.
After two or three year as an agent, you'll have the experience and contacts you will need in order to get a job as a newly graduated patent attorney.
I wish to hell I'd followed this advice. When I started law school, everyone told me that as a CS major, I'd have no problem finding summer work and a job upon graduation. That's no longer true.
« on: August 19, 2010, 06:32:55 AM »
If you're going to do it, do it seriously. Take a Powerscore class to prep for the LSAT, kick ass on it, and get a scholarship. The money you wasted on that prep class will be more than repaid in scholarship dollars.
With a 3.73 in History and a 172 on the LSAT, you'll be in a mid-T1, maybe even a lower T14. The mid-T1's should offer you some decent scholarships. I know the competition is a lot harder than when I started two years ago, though; I wouldn't have gotten into my school if I'd applied even a year later, much less gotten half off tuition.
« on: August 19, 2010, 06:25:05 AM »
Is this thread a joke?
In this economy, you go to the highest-ranked school you can possibly attend. Rank correlates strongly with post-graduation placement. You will have a network of alums to call on if you go to U Minn.
If you go to St. Thomas, you can call on my waste-of-space sister-in-law, who managed to stay employed for a whole six months as an attorney before she got fired for incompetence. Maybe you can wait tables together.
Call the school and check. Every school has a different policy on in-state tuition. Since your family owns property in NJ and pays property taxes there, you may already be considered in-state -- you would be if you were going to my school (and as long as you're still considered a dependent).