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Studying for the LSAT / LSAT Score Theory
« on: January 01, 2016, 06:33:49 PM »
Although it may be of no surprise, I tend to believe that you must score at least a 165 on the LSAT to "make it". 

Incoming 1Ls / Law Firm 401k
« on: August 01, 2007, 11:16:39 AM »
I was wondering if most v100 law firms double your 401k contributions.  I used to work for a fortune 50 company that did this and benefited greatly.  Does anybody know if law firms do this too?

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Bummed out...low diagnostic score
« on: July 14, 2007, 03:04:37 PM »
Now that everyone has blown sunshine up your ass.

Very few people raise their score more than 10 points from their first diagnostic test.  To even raise those 10 points takes considerable effort (think 3hrs/day for 3 months).

Almost no people raise their score more than 20 points.  Literally, almost nobody.  It just doesn't happen.

NOBODY raises their score 30 points (to get you to 170). 

This post is ridiculous.  The OP has only taken one test!?!  Heck, the first time I took the games section, I had NO CLUE what to do and missed like 20.  

It's not easy to get 170 regardless of where you begin. Period.  But you can raise your score by 20.  Just familiarize yourself with the test and practice.  If at a point you plateau around 165, then you're probably never going to break the 170 barrier.  But even if you plateau at some point--any point--keep fighting to improve.  I plateaued at 160, thought I'd never break 165, and then had a breakthrough after several more months of study.

Like most things in life, what you get on the LSAT is equal to what you put into it.

Some people just want to do PI, and some of the government jobs are prestigious despite their low salaries.

This is a good point I forgot to mention.  working in a DA's office can lead to good things in the future

Incoming 1Ls / Re: What do we need for law school!?
« on: July 06, 2007, 09:51:15 AM »
What kinda school supplies do we need? Do people generally take all notes on their laptop?

I'm thinking a laptop, pencil and paper, some sort of daily planner.
I do not plan to write notes on a laptop because I hate the tapping noise it makes in class.

(Sidenote to Hercule: 100k job is nothing to be scoffed at, but isn't BIGLAW market)

Point taken, but the majority of those who went into private practice had a 135K median starting salary.  100k was only like 11% who went into private practice. 

Just to note, these stats can be misleading.  Not all students at USC and peer schools can get high-paying jobs.  Note that a lot of students don't report their salary info, and that the higher salaries are only for those working in the private sector. 

The placement at the schools is certainly better than at tier 2 schools, but it's hardly guaranteed. 

Yes. Ignore the data and listen to Lindbergh, who uses his powers of omnipotence to tell you what happens to USC students. Do you even know a single USC law student?

I don't know why this thread attracts so many blowhards. Go away.

This, wiimote, is why so many people in this thread think that you and your "data" are worthless.  You don't seem to grasp that the information you are providing is neither definitive nor even particularly informative. 

Your data shows that the median reported salary of private sector students is market rate (back when it was $125,000).  What's the response rate to USC's self-reported salary survey?  I'll be generous and assume it is 75%.  Only about 65% of USC students work in law firms. 

Congratulations, wiimote: you've proven that at least the top 25% of USC's class can make market upon graduation!  I'm sure we were all really uncertain about that.  Oh, you've also demonstrated that students outside of the top 1/3 might not be able to get a market-rate biglaw job.  I don't want to undersell your findings there. 

And then you get your panties all in a wad because someone has the nerve to suggest that "not all students at USC...can get high paying jobs."  That's essentially a truism, and you think you've somehow disputed it with your "data"?  You're a tool.

Wiimote is pretty much correct about USC.  According to career stats the school sent me, the employment breakdown is something like this:
 With 96% of class reporting
76% Private Practice: avg salary 135,000, lowest being 100K
10% business: avg salary 80K,
10% public: 50K (yeah this one's not so hot)
2-3%: academia

I don't remember it exactly, but it's probably safe to say that if your in the top 75-80%, you can get a 100K job.  But of course SOME people are not going to get a high paying job right out of school.  This could be because they did poorly, have terrible interviewing/social schools, or simply CHOSE to go into a less profitable area.  That stats also did not include people who accepted clerkships but were going into private practice afterwards. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: The USC '10 Thread
« on: June 26, 2007, 08:57:46 AM »
Did anybody else get the USC career stats in the mail?  I was pretty impressed.  I tried to think of a way the career office could have manipulated the data, but it looks legit.  76 % went into private practice with a starting salary of at least 100,000.  What I like about it was that it showed 19 percent of those who went into private practice went to a firm of 2-25 attorneys and still earned a salary of 100K, so BIGLAW is not necessary to earn six digits.

I can't wait to be a Trojan!! :P

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Roth IRA
« on: June 19, 2007, 02:32:59 PM »
I'm thinking about setting up a Roth IRA with Vanguard.  Thoughts?  Experiences?

I am going to do the same.  I think starting a retirement fund when you're young is a no brainer.

Choosing the Right Law School / Job Question
« on: June 16, 2007, 02:21:37 PM »
I read a lot about BIGLAW on these forums, but what about the other places to work.  Of course, a 150K salary at BIGLAW would be amazing and it's what I probably will aim for.  But where do the graduates who don't make BIGLAW work, and how much do they earn?  150K is awesome, but even earning 90-100K staight out of law school is pretty darn good.

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