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Studying for the LSAT / Re: UGH!
« on: June 07, 2009, 01:56:19 PM »
from thread title, julie thought maybe you saw republican on tv.

excuse me....

are you implying that the Republicans could be responsible for the LSAT?

that might explain my angst over taking the test tomorrow.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: test date change
« on: June 06, 2009, 07:25:17 PM »
I think the rule has been changed.

See the sticky?,4019285.0.html

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Which LSAT prep course would you suggest??
« on: December 16, 2008, 10:32:20 AM »
Thankyou all for your advice. I live in Dallas and Blueprint doesn't offer a course here. Testmasters and Powerscore offer classes here (Kaplan and PR as well). What would you suggest I do here. I have the Logical Ressoning Bible and plan on getting the others. What were some of your results? -Blessings

I wouldn't do the PS bibles unless you're going to self-study or do the PS class (I personally don't recommend self-study to anyone).  Other companies' techniques are going to differ, and I've had bad experiences with students who learn two methods and try to reconcile them.  Pick one and run with it.  Don't choose a company based on brand.  Do some investigative work (i.e. get out and meet people) and find out who the superstar instructor is in your area (hint: he's the guy that knocks you on your butt with his LSAT knowledge the first 15 minutes you talk to him) and take his (or her) class.

I think this is excellent advice and wish I had done a little more investigating of sources other than the company which held the LSAT class. Just because someone scores in the 99th percentile or whatever, it doesn't make them a good teacher.

I think a class can help, but suspect that many companies just use a teacher as book guide; they just basically cover the book contents in class.


Studying for the LSAT / Re: Day before the LSAT...
« on: December 05, 2008, 10:23:27 PM »
A lot of people reschedule, don't beat yourself up about it too much.  Better to postpone and do well  ;)

10-4 and thanks....I agree, better to wait and prepare/work to get a better score.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Day before the LSAT...
« on: December 05, 2008, 07:00:26 PM »
I spent part of my Friday resheduling the LSAT for February.  :)

Not proud of the fact really cause I want to take it tomorrow but with only 6-8 weeks of prep, it is wise to wait and study more.

Non-Traditional Students / Re: Anyone just happy to get in anywhere?
« on: October 18, 2008, 11:13:43 PM »
I'm 44, with a 3.4 GPA but weak practice LSAT scores (I take the test in Dec08) I've seen the posts and researched the importance of getting into a Tier 1 or 2 school. But was anyone out there just happy to get into law schol and willing to make the move anywhere in the country no matter if its a T4?


most of the advice I've received is to prep for the test as much as possible.  I'm scheduled for Dec too but if I don't start scoring in the high 150's on practice tests I plan to cancel taking the test.  I'm 51 but believe now that the test score is extremely important.....important enough to wait another year if need be.

I've also been told to not be discouraged by low early test scores.


Non-Traditional Students / Re: Do Older Students Ever Get Scholarships?
« on: September 19, 2008, 10:38:17 AM »
Dutch:  I'm taking the LSAT again because I didn't get a score good enough for Georgia State (if I can get in, I'll go part-time at night) or other schools in areas where my husband and I may end up.  We will move West at some point and if it is while I'm still in law school, I don't want there to be any concerns about my LSAT score.

The toughest parts of the exam for me were the logical and analytical (logic games) reasoning sections.  I had not worked through the PowerScore bibles beforehand and I didn't fully comprehend how to work the problems effectively.  Once you take the test I think you'll understand.  Time is critical because those 35 minutes per section go by very quickly.  PowerScore emphasizes time management, which is key to doing well on the LSAT.


Hey CM!

Good luck on the test!  I too have been looking at Ga State along with UGA, Emory, etc.  The BIG advantage to Ga State IMO is I could continue to work and go P/T.  If not I'd have to sell my house and quit work. :(

I'm looking into that Powerscore course, if I can find the beans to pay for it I'm gonna do it and take the December LSAT.  Thanks again for the tip and good luck getting in somewhere.


Non-Traditional Students / Re: Do Older Students Ever Get Scholarships?
« on: September 16, 2008, 07:07:36 AM »
Hi Dutch - The Emory instructor's defensiveness is a huge red flag (IMHO).  While his course may have helped me somewhat (I got a 154 the first time I took the test - in June), I feel that my money would have been better spent on a PowerScore course.  And no, I don't know anything about the Gwinnett course.  CM

Hey Thanks CM!

You plan on taking the LSAT again?  If you don't mind me asking, where do you want to go to school?

What was the hardest part of the LSAT to you?

Appreciate it!

Non-Traditional Students / Re: Do Older Students Ever Get Scholarships?
« on: September 15, 2008, 12:11:14 PM »
Hey Dutch - Skip the Emory class.  I took it earlier this year before the June test and was not impressed.  The instructor has some really annoying mannerisms and his notebook is full of typos.  I won't say that I wasted the $400, but I could have invested it in a much better way.  If I take another class, it will definitely be the full-length PowerScore course (  I didn't work through the PowerScore bibles before the June exam and I have learned so much from them (contrary to what the LSAC guy said during the Atlanta forum, there are "trick" questions on the test and PowerScore points them out).  If anything, the bibles are worth investing in and David Killoran (founder of PowerScore and author of the bibles) has been great about answering my email questions.

Thanks for the tip catmommy!  Glad I checked back here before I decided, was about to register online for that class, but will reconsider based on what you said.  I emailed the fella that teaches that course and he was a little defensive in answering my questions about it which really surprised me given the emphasis these days on critical thinking in academia. 

You don't think the Emory class helped your score any?

Have you heard anything about the Gwinnett class taught by UGA? 

I've got a couple of those Powerscore bibles on watch on E-bay!  I may just go ahead and order one for sure.

Thanks again!

Non-Traditional Students / Re: LSAC forum
« on: September 14, 2008, 09:03:23 PM »
catmommy was there?

I didn't see you.   ;D

Or maybe I did.

Johnny C if I used one word to describe it it would be LOUD.  I was amazed they didn't at least have the rows divided with some sort of sound baffling.  It was like talking to someone in a  full sports stadium.

Overall I'd say it was worth it.  Informative for sure and I'd say well attended. Some of the counselors/law school reps were good and answered questions; some were just going through the motions.
The local school tables were the most busy.   Seems things were localized except for the t14 schools and they had business as well.

I had hoped to be more impressed with J Marshall of Atl.

The questions I asked the most were:

Is the LSAT in December too late for merit scholarship consideration?
How old is your oldest student?

I got varied answers.  Probably about 70-80% said that I'd still get considered for the most part in merit money if my numbers were good.  About 10-20% did say it was getting late in the cycle.

The rep I was most impressed with was an admissions guy from Tulane.  He said Dec was getting pretty late and that I should be sure first of all to make sure that the LSAT was prepped for properly EVEN if it meant waiting a year more. (Earlcat might want to see that!!)

I stayed there about 3 hrs and it did give me some direction.

There were a few more oldie-hopefuls there than I anticipated and most admissions folk weren't fazed at all that an old guy was inquiring.


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