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Obama just may have lost the election with this revelation..

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Please tell me you don't believe that. What a joke!

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I am determined to attend Harvard Law School. There is no other school that I would rather be. My only huge concern is the LSAT. I have a 3.5 GPA, which means I would have to score at least a 170 on the LSAT to be competitive. I know that it is possible if I remain diligent and optimistic. I am about to embark on a 6 month study plan to prepare for the June 2009 LSAT.

I just wanted to know is there any one out there aiming for a 170 and aiming to get into HARVARD LAW? If so, how are you going about achieving it? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Yeah, if you want to get into Harvard, aim to get into Yale. If you get into Yale then you'll probably be a shoo in at Harvard.

Thanks for the advice...I will definitely aim for Yale too.

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Trying being denied something not because of intelligence, but by color of your skin. Hmm... white person with a 3.4/160 and black person with a 3.4/160 both apply, white person is denied and black person is let in. White person is denied because their skin color isn't dark enough. Yeah... that system makes COMPLETE sense.

I guess now you see what we black people have suffered from for centuries.Your experience still does not compare...white people still have it much easier in our society...Explain to me why it is that even with AA the number of blacks that get accepted and attend law school is still significantly lower than that of white people? If we did not have AA...damn some of us would not even have a chance. I guess that would make you feel better.

Maybe because there ARE fewer blacks in this country. Maybe of that minority number, not as many apply to law school as whites do. Maybe there is __% of blacks because that's the percentage of the applicant pool they make up. Doesn't mean standards should be lowered, often 8+ LSAT points, just to let more in to law school.



You are just oblivious to the reality that we live in. I value your opinion and I understand your frustrations, but you just don't get it. We as a race were suppressed for centuries and were prohibited from things such as reading and attending good schools. We were and still are denied access from many resources.  Having said that many African-Americans do not succeed at a rate that could succeed, because many are not given the resources to do so. That is why the bar is lowered for minorities.

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I am determined to attend Harvard Law School. There is no other school that I would rather be. My only huge concern is the LSAT. I have a 3.5 GPA, which means I would have to score at least a 170 on the LSAT to be competitive. I know that it is possible if I remain diligent and optimistic. I am about to embark on a 6 month study plan to prepare for the June 2009 LSAT.

I just wanted to know is there any one out there aiming for a 170 and aiming to get into HARVARD LAW? If so, how are you going about achieving it? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

I aimed for and surpassed a 170 but wanting to go to Harvard Law is a separate issue. In my experience, both Harvard and Yale have a higher ratio of insufferable elitists compared to other top colleges. With that said, I'll be applying to Harvard anyway only because my mother was aghast at the thought of me not applying. Black male here.


How long did you study to reach your score?

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Trying being denied something not because of intelligence, but by color of your skin. Hmm... white person with a 3.4/160 and black person with a 3.4/160 both apply, white person is denied and black person is let in. White person is denied because their skin color isn't dark enough. Yeah... that system makes COMPLETE sense.

I guess now you see what we black people have suffered from for centuries.Your experience still does not compare...white people still have it much easier in our society...Explain to me why it is that even with AA the number of blacks that get accepted and attend law school is still significantly lower than that of white people? If we did not have AA...damn some of us would not even have a chance. I guess that would make you feel better.

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I do not think that people can defeat racism with racism. Also, how can a school determine whether a person has been the object of racism? If you are black, does that mean you have faced discrimination? If you are white, does that mean you have not faced discrimination? I think it is absurd that some people believe that everything that is wrong in the black community is a result of racism. If AA is necessary, how long will it take before it will become unnecessary? In my opinion, AA is reverse racism. I do not think it helps to alleviate racism, but further promote it. An example of this is Clarence Thomas. Many people think that the only reason he got into Yale was because of AA, not because of his brilliance and hard work. With AA in place, many people assume that their black classmates are there as a result of AA, not a result of their talent. This needs to stop. We do not need to constantly class people by their physical characteristics. We do not need one race believing that another race owes them something, or one race thinking another has an unfair advantage just because of the color of their skin. I was born in 1986, do not hold me accountable for something SOME WHITE people subjected SOME BLACK people to long before I was born.

That something that SOME white people subjected SOME Black people to was RACISM and it is still prevalent today. Don't try to down play how detrimental racism was not only to Black people, but to this nation as a whole. I wish that AA was not necessary, but the fact remains it is necessary. Try walking in a minorities shoes for a day and you'll see what it feels like to be denied something not because you were not intelligent enough, but because of the color of your skin.


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Being black is physiological.

Being poor is a choice.

If your family is white and you have been in this county for more than 2-3 generations and youíre still poor Ė youíre doing it wrong.    Why should we reward the spawn of folks who obviously canít achieve the American Dream with no outside pressure keeping them downtrodden by giving them a preference in education? Seems like we are valuing the wrong work ethic that way.

We donít have a caste system in the US. If your born white you have no systematic history of racism keeping you from achieving whatever you want. Your are not forced from the outside to remain poor. Baring catastrophic illness being poor and raising poor children is a CHOICE. People choose to take low paying jobs, forgo education, have children before they can afford them, not work two jobs Ė whatever that therefore results in them having less money that a similar person who made different choices. No one puts a gun to your head as says your born poor therefore you must stay poor forever. Sam Walton, Warren Buffet and many other rich Americans were born poor. In fact in the US most people were originally poor and built their wealth through generations of families putting their own rewards aside so their children could have better lives -  not because the government gave them a handout.

We donít have a landed arostoricry here. Other people, many times immigrants and minorities, choose to work two or more jobs or start their own 7-11 or whatever so their children can have it better than they do. Giving someoneís kids a leg up because they failed to make the choices in life that would allow their children to have more than they did is the not the American way. In this country we have always valued those that brought themselves up by their own bootstraps changing the system to favor those who donít do so is un-American. While you may not favor race based AA, race is at least a universal factor that is not the result of oneís choices in life.

PS. Yes I am a classist basterd.




I concur :)

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How about getting rid of AA altogether? The middle class seems to lose either way. I believe that people should get in based on academic ability, not hardships one has faced.


Do you consider racism a hardship?

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Pardon Johnny, what's funny is that I never even read your post. I was just responding to the OP. Ooops your bad! But nice to know we think alike.

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I don't think that class AA would be sufficient. If you had a white student and a black student who grew up in the same class....the black student would still have a tougher experience trying to advance.Why?? Because he is black. I think racism has been so detrimental to minorities that having class AA would be pointless. Racism is the root cause of all the issues that affect minorities today, so therefore race AA is needed. Hopefully, we can get to a point one day when it is not need at all

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