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Univ of MD, American, Temple, Brooklyn, Howard

Which school would you pick or not pick if you had a choice between those schools, please explain why or why not when giving a response. I do like to practice in the D.C area. I am URM (if you are wondering about Howard lol). Thanks in Advance.

If you are attending law school in august 09? what is the Ideal way to prepare for law school during the 8 months left before August (if you have clear schedule until then)?

Although the Masters might help a little, but from talking to many dean's at different law schools they all seem to be in agreement that going to grad school to make your app look good for law schools IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. Your work experince will help your GPA and an addendum to explain how your divorce affected your grades will take care of that. Lsac calculates all the classes you took as an undergad (up until the day your first degree is conferred), even the original and second grades you got for all classes you retook. So regardless of your school counts that in or not LSAC does that so all the law schools know that has been factored in whey they are looking at your LSAC grades (which they go by)

If you can do well on the LSAT you might have a shot at some decent schools. If you think you are going to do really well in law school, you might be better of to go to the best school you can get it and transfer to a better school than going to grad school.

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: Low ugpa
« on: January 17, 2009, 11:52:47 PM »
although your gpa is very low, I am pretty sure with a good Lsat score, an addendum explaining your past illness and how it affected your grades, and a well written personal statment you can get it in somwhere somehow...worse come to worse you can transfer up from a lower ranked school if you are determined law schoos is where you want to be regardless. Be cautioned though, a lot of people go to law school thinking they transfer up easily. It is a very difficult process, so know what yo getting yourself into. But all in all if you really want to go to "any" law school you have a shot with a decent lsat score

Black Law Students / Re: The Howard Law/HBCU Law Schools Thread
« on: January 15, 2009, 09:48:18 PM »
This is my first post...I am beginning my senior year.  I have a 2.8 and I am a finance major at Howard.

I have not taken the LSAT.  What are my chances of getting into law school?

What is the best study material for the LSAT?

Your GPA is horrible...

Your GPA is low however you still can get accepted to good law schools. How you may ask? LSAT. The LSAT is your best friend right now. I used to think GPA is crucial but now  I have navigated through the admission process for law schools, believe me law schools are "whores" when it comes to LSAT scores. Get a high score and they will forgive a lot lol. With that being said you should get your gpa as high as you can, study hard and get it up if ou can. This will let them know you are capable.

P.S oh yeah your personal statement is your other best friend from looking at your gpa. so you should spend a considerable amount of time on it.

That's a real tactless way to put it.


I was just wondering if anybody had any suggestions on where someone like I (large public uni., black male) with a 3.2 GPA in finance and a 157 LSAT should consider applying to?


Hey we have similar numbers (although I have a few major soft factors), after deciding which area you are most likely to practice you should look into that region. I am mostly familiar with north east region so I can only speak for that area but you should look into schools like Fordham, Temple, GW, UMD, Rutgers, Howard, American, catholic, George Mason, George Washington...out of those lists Geogre Washington will prob be an extreme reach. Lets say you were fortunate enough to get accepted into all of those listed..i will prob rank em GW, Fordham, Mason, Umd, Rutgers, Howard, Temple, American, and catholic..(american will be a lot higher but they too expensive I think)..Again this is just for north east area..and just my two cents...

I am a black female who recently graduated from an HBCU. I graduated cum laude with a GPA of 3.6 and my LSAT was 154. I have two prior misdemeanors, one for shoplifting when I was 17 and one for a false police report in 2007. I was involved in lots of extracurricular activities, with leadership, and did 3 internships during college. I received a LSAC fee waiver, if that means anything, but I'm at a socioeconomic disadvantage.

I applied to UMiami, Howard, St.Thomas, Georgia State... what do you think my chances are?


I dont know how much your misdemeanors will affect you, but from looking at your gpa it seems you overcame your obstacles although 2007 police report is a bit recent (be sure to disclose it in your app, just to be safe when the time comes for you to take the bar and you wont run into any "suprises"). But yeah I second the statement "you should apply to much higher ranked schools". I dont know much about the other schools but I have researched Howard and it is one of those schools that performs way higher than its ranking, especially if you planning on practicing in the D.C market. Looking at your numbers you should have a decent shot, you lsat is their range and your gpa is obviously above their range. Good luck!!

Outside of the "national" schools, it's important to pick a school AFTER researching your desired market. Find some firms where you would like to work in the DC area and read their attorney profiles to see which schools are well-represented. If you'd like to work in a gov't agency, find some lawyers who work there and speak to them. Rank doesn't really matter in these cases as much as "will this school position me to find a job in my market?"

Thank You, I have been talking to the students and graduates of these schools on facebook, and they all seem pro the school they went to. I havent talked to anyone who told me do not go to my school lol. The problem I am facing is that, I plan on practicing in these regions and they all seem to have equally well recognized in the region. The only upside UMD has over the other schools so far is just higher ranking, which is no small difference since the lawyer market is very competitive in D.C.

None of these schools are "better" than U of M.  Listen, kid: your rank at these schools is FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR more important than the school's rank.

I was speaking in terms of ranking, ofcourse thats doesnt mean that is necessarly the truth in reality when I say none of these schools are not "better" than UMD. Are you saying, I should be more concerned with where I rank amongst the students therefore I should go to a school where I rank among the top? I am trying to figure out what you meant exactly. If that's what you meant I am thinking about that too because you got a poin there.

Black Law Students / Re: The LSAT has been my downfall
« on: December 26, 2008, 12:14:34 PM »
Hey, how you doing? You definatly have a great story and I am glad you made it through college and earned your good grades. I highly concur with the advice of you not to stigmitizing your self as a bad test taker and find out your weakness on the Lsat (which section are you having a problem with). With that being said, dont lose sight of the progress you have made so far and from the info you gave you have a great story. It seems to me your Personal Statment is extremly improtant in your case, so taylor that portion of your app to tell your story with out being negative (it is curcial you adhere to this advice.

Also you definatly should write an addendum. you had 1010 for SAT and got into a top school graduating with 3.7, it definatly lets them know a standarized test score doesnt necessarly reflect your abilities. My numbers suffered due to some unexpected life problems I ran into. I wrote an addendum and used the personal statment to my advantage (I got accepted to Univ of MD) which by the way you should look into. Apply to as many top schools as you can, and do not listen to people who tell you you dont have a chance here and there. I did not apply to UMD till someone who knew my personal story convinced me to do, so listen to the right people. I did not get to a top 10 school but i got to the school I did extremly well with the application process given my numbers and where i got accepted in (I am tellin saying this so you know I am speaking from first hand exprience)..good luck and feel free to send me messages if you have any questions. Again Congrats on your sucess at cornell.

Work on your lsat and get it some points

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