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General Off-Topic Board / Re: We must return to traditional values.
« on: March 24, 2009, 12:30:05 AM »
Leading by example is important, but how does that help with issues like preserving a LIMITED federal government and stopping socialism?  



Well we can start by not having a republican president/congress that does not leave the country in a crisis and leave no choice but to have EXPANDED federal governemnt to clean up the mess until it goes back to normal (you can argue some democrats has something do with that as well, but as any leader will tell you, good or bad it is the responsibilty of the leader). We can also start by addressing the continung of the gap between the increase of wealth between those that have and  thos have not at alarming rate. Yes we are for free market but repblicans (and some democrats) forgot the equall acess part though. Most of the values mentioned are important but values are luxuary when you are at the bottom of the totem poll and you are barley surviving. And the way they handled this country in the last  8 years, unfortunately most of us are the bottom of the totem pole right now.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: We must return to traditional values.
« on: March 24, 2009, 12:13:40 AM »
You can advocate for it, but the problem is that they go around all high and mighty trying to shove it down someone's throat while they are doing against exactly what they preach. If you believe in those principles, apply it in your own life and be a prime example and maybe others will notice. Its one thing to talk about it and go around to shove it down someone's throat, its another to lead by example. what is it they say

"What you do is so loud, I cant hear what you say?"

P.S. when I say "you" I am not referring to the OP, just in traditionalists in general.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Howard or Maryland?
« on: March 23, 2009, 11:53:39 PM »
I am replying to you as soon as soon as I see your message because I was in your place a few weeks ago and I know how it feels to discuss this with someone with in very similar situation as you. Although I didnt sit in UMD class, they did seem a little too dry for me too. I talked to many UMD alumni and Howard, and even other lawyers. It could be wrong but from what I gather from them, once you get past law schools ranked outside the top 30 (some go as far as to say top 15), the school ranking should not be a big factor. obviously Tier 1 is the better choice vs Tier 2,3,4 but it is not worth the full price tag if you have a regional school as dominant that is cheaper (which Howard is and some argue even a better career opportunity, especially if you want to go into big law or any field dealing with minorities)

As far as Scholarships, you should try to play those two schools against each other. Talk to Howard and tell them you have an offer from Maryland and cost is a major factor in your decision, and if they are not going to offer you any scholly you are thinking about accepting UMD offer (if you havent talked to them about it yet). You never know they might give you some, although you dont have much time to keep doing that lol. Anyways its a very tough choice, especially if you are MD resident since it makes UMD really cheap.

I am trying to stay objective and not lead you towards Howard lol..eitha ways its a good problem to have!!

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Howard or Maryland?
« on: March 23, 2009, 11:10:41 PM »
I am 98% leaning Howard, but I am leaving that 2% because when I started I wanted to go UMD ever since I can remember before I even knew what their rankings and etc was lol. Howard is really impressive, I visited both schools. UMD looked more efficent as far as admin wise. They were sharp and on point. I didnt get to see any UMD students or sit in class though. Howard,  The students were all great and friendly, the professor whom I sat in class with was awesome, and seeing all those pictures of past civil rights leaders on the wall kind of catches you off guard even if you are not that type. I just felt comfortable at Howard. Maybe its because I grew up around D.C area most of my life.I dont know. But I am 98% leaning towards Howard, I will leave that 2% open until April comes around and I have to make the deposit lol. we still got some time lol


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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Howard or Maryland?
« on: March 23, 2009, 10:24:41 PM »
There is actually somebody else going through the exact dilema I am going throughlol. I dont think you can go wrong either ways. For me the major factor was that I wanted to work in DC market and Howard has better numbers in D.C. Even "majorer" lol factor was finance. It would be a lot cheaper for me to attend Howard. I always wanted to go to Maryland and I turned down other peer schools immediately. I was convinced my decision was made (this was at begining of jan when I recieved my UMD offer lol) but after doing a lot of research on Howard, I realized its not just another lower Tier school. Plus the historical significance is a plus to me since I am AA male. I dont think you can go wrong picking either or. I know its a very difficult decision lol, it took me 3 4 months, tryin to come to a decision. Even now I am not 100% sure. Im glad to run into somebody who feels my pain lol

P.S I cant even imagine how much more difficult it will be to pick one of those schools if you are a resident of Maryland (as that will make tutition at UMD very cheap)

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Scholarship Negotiation?
« on: March 23, 2009, 10:12:08 PM »
hey sorry guys I was a little bit busy.

Anyways, I was suprised from the start because as soon as I called the director and told her my name she knew exactly who I was and the previous email correspondance we had, without puting me on hold trying to look up my info. It was like she was waiting for me lol. She said she wanted to explain to me personally why I havent recieved a scholly. She said the school was a state funded school and because of the economy they had little money to give out because all thier scholarships are renewable for 2nd and 3rd year. So once they paid all the 2Ls and 3Ls, they couldnt give out as much merit scolly as before. As a result all scholarship decisions have to be made by the comettie as a whole and she would sumbit my request for me. If I dont get it, they will give me strong review on the need based grant process.

She sounded genuine and really wanted to assist me. I didnt get quite what I wanted but I was impressed with the fact that director knew who I was and my situation right of the top of her head. I guess I have to wait and see what the result is, although it does not look like any good news yet.


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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Scholarship Negotiation?
« on: March 19, 2009, 01:52:32 PM »
Thanks, so I got an email back from the director saying "Please give me a call to discuss your request. Thank you". I dont know what to make of it, I dont know if this is a good sign or bad sign. I guess I have to make the phone call, I hope it will not be an akward conversation lol

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Scholarship Negotiation?
« on: March 18, 2009, 11:50:48 PM »
Wow this thread is an answer to my prayers. I have been contemplating how to do this "negotiate" your scholarships business. I did not know how to even bring up the conversation without sounding like a total tool bag lol. So I just gave up on doing that. But then I saw this thread and it motivated me to try it alteast. So I just sent the director of Univ Maryland an email using the format on here. It is really my top school choice and if the finances work out I will be happy to attend there. So wish me luck!! I just sent the email today so I have no idea if it will work or not. Alteast that "what if I sent them an email" voice is gone now lol

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Odds on keeping scholarship?
« on: March 16, 2009, 02:30:53 AM »
In regards to the convo on the topic of the relationship between LSAT and law school perfomance,

it does give you an indication, but it just means those two have correlative relationship to an extent. It will be extreamly costly to assume they have a causal relationship.

I don't think anyone would argue that a high LSAT score causes good law school results.

I was in a hurry so I didnt articulate my earlier post. I think the issue is people assume their lsat scores automatically put them in a postion to place in a certain grade percentage in their first year. Yes the Lsat can give you an indication of how you will peform. It could cause good law school results but not necessarly so. For example, students who think they will automaticaly be in top of their class because their LSAT score is above the 75% of a certain school average are going to be in for a rude awakening. I hear comments like "well I am going to go to a lower ranked school and finish in the Top 5% and transfer" and it makes me cringe lol. I am declining my offers from higher ranked schools and taking a scholarship are school ranked lower. Since I have decided to go to a lower ranked school my LSAT percentage is above the 75% of the school average. I do not think for a second I will simply "outperfom" the rest of my classmates just because of my LSAT score. That is what I was trying to communicate in my post. It will be foolish to assume a certain LSAT score will tell you how you will perfom in law school. It simply gives you an idea.

Even if Lsat scores are 100% indicitive how one will perform in law school, you have to take in to account how long someone prepared for it, under what conditions (private tutor, prep class, self study, no study at all), what kind of  test taker they are, and etc.

I think some one said it best in the previous posts, once you get to law school everyone starts with a clean slate and all the things the LSAT does not account for come into play and impact how you perform in law school. (im too tired to read over this post and edit it lol, hope it made some sense)

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Odds on keeping scholarship?
« on: March 15, 2009, 11:21:19 PM »
In regards to the convo on the topic of the relationship between LSAT and law school perfomance,

it does give you an indication, but it just means those two have correlative relationship to an extent. It will be extreamly costly to assume they have a causal relationship.

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