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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Scholarship Negotiation?
« on: March 23, 2009, 08:12:08 PM »
hey sorry guys I was a little bit busy.

Anyways, I was suprised from the start because as soon as I called the director and told her my name she knew exactly who I was and the previous email correspondance we had, without puting me on hold trying to look up my info. It was like she was waiting for me lol. She said she wanted to explain to me personally why I havent recieved a scholly. She said the school was a state funded school and because of the economy they had little money to give out because all thier scholarships are renewable for 2nd and 3rd year. So once they paid all the 2Ls and 3Ls, they couldnt give out as much merit scolly as before. As a result all scholarship decisions have to be made by the comettie as a whole and she would sumbit my request for me. If I dont get it, they will give me strong review on the need based grant process.

She sounded genuine and really wanted to assist me. I didnt get quite what I wanted but I was impressed with the fact that director knew who I was and my situation right of the top of her head. I guess I have to wait and see what the result is, although it does not look like any good news yet.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Scholarship Negotiation?
« on: March 19, 2009, 11:52:32 AM »
Thanks, so I got an email back from the director saying "Please give me a call to discuss your request. Thank you". I dont know what to make of it, I dont know if this is a good sign or bad sign. I guess I have to make the phone call, I hope it will not be an akward conversation lol

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Scholarship Negotiation?
« on: March 18, 2009, 09:50:48 PM »
Wow this thread is an answer to my prayers. I have been contemplating how to do this "negotiate" your scholarships business. I did not know how to even bring up the conversation without sounding like a total tool bag lol. So I just gave up on doing that. But then I saw this thread and it motivated me to try it alteast. So I just sent the director of Univ Maryland an email using the format on here. It is really my top school choice and if the finances work out I will be happy to attend there. So wish me luck!! I just sent the email today so I have no idea if it will work or not. Alteast that "what if I sent them an email" voice is gone now lol

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Odds on keeping scholarship?
« on: March 16, 2009, 12:30:53 AM »
In regards to the convo on the topic of the relationship between LSAT and law school perfomance,

it does give you an indication, but it just means those two have correlative relationship to an extent. It will be extreamly costly to assume they have a causal relationship.

I don't think anyone would argue that a high LSAT score causes good law school results.

I was in a hurry so I didnt articulate my earlier post. I think the issue is people assume their lsat scores automatically put them in a postion to place in a certain grade percentage in their first year. Yes the Lsat can give you an indication of how you will peform. It could cause good law school results but not necessarly so. For example, students who think they will automaticaly be in top of their class because their LSAT score is above the 75% of a certain school average are going to be in for a rude awakening. I hear comments like "well I am going to go to a lower ranked school and finish in the Top 5% and transfer" and it makes me cringe lol. I am declining my offers from higher ranked schools and taking a scholarship are school ranked lower. Since I have decided to go to a lower ranked school my LSAT percentage is above the 75% of the school average. I do not think for a second I will simply "outperfom" the rest of my classmates just because of my LSAT score. That is what I was trying to communicate in my post. It will be foolish to assume a certain LSAT score will tell you how you will perfom in law school. It simply gives you an idea.

Even if Lsat scores are 100% indicitive how one will perform in law school, you have to take in to account how long someone prepared for it, under what conditions (private tutor, prep class, self study, no study at all), what kind of  test taker they are, and etc.

I think some one said it best in the previous posts, once you get to law school everyone starts with a clean slate and all the things the LSAT does not account for come into play and impact how you perform in law school. (im too tired to read over this post and edit it lol, hope it made some sense)

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Odds on keeping scholarship?
« on: March 15, 2009, 09:21:19 PM »
In regards to the convo on the topic of the relationship between LSAT and law school perfomance,

it does give you an indication, but it just means those two have correlative relationship to an extent. It will be extreamly costly to assume they have a causal relationship.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: American vs. George Mason
« on: March 15, 2009, 08:44:17 PM »
They both are pretty similar to me, although they both have different strengths. American has been around longer so therefore it offers deeper alumni base which is a big deal. However, it is too expensive. George Mason is not that old so they have fewer alumni base, but they do have an upward trend in rankings and they are moving up pretty fast. Infact if you look at their acceptance numbers, they seem to be a whore for LSAT scores lol (even more so than other law schools). Plus they are extremly cheap, and even cheaper in your second year when you become an instate student (although I dont know how hard/easy it is to turn into instate student). So based on that I would choose GMU seems to be clearly better choice in my opinion. If finance is not an issue, I think you are basically spliting hair since their placement in DC is not that far apart. Maybe then I would consider it to be a difficult decision.

But again this is advice from an OL who has done some reasearch. Maybe current Law students can shed a better light on this subject than me. Regardless, good luck with your decision.

AA Male
2.7 GPA
170 LSAT

I've had bouts of depression the past couple of years, which I've began treating just recently.  I've also gotten 4.0 in the past two semesters.  Would this give me a good chance at any schools ranked 20-30?

As long as you put in addendum, you might have some chance I think. Although your GPA is too low the depression aspect and the 4.0 upward trend is heavily in your favor. It just depends how much they give you a leeway based on those soft factors. You might want to apply to whole bunch of them because you never know which admin person is going to give you a chance. Schools forgive a lot for high "lsat" but 2.7 is still very low. Apply to as many as you can, even higher than 20 if yu can afford it, you just never knw!!!

**edit**replaced "gpa" with "lsat"

Like everyone says it has a lot to do with the person's maturity and commitment level. Living together or separate it is not doubt Law school will be very demanding, you know the whole "law is a jealous mistress" thing. From what I have noticed from my lawstudent friends and what I have read, I think the less ambitious and supportive your SO is the more problem you have. But you said she is in Harvard working on her degree, so sounds like she would be busy as well. I guess you just have to ask yourself

1) Can I handle the stress of law school and not having myspace at home
2) Is there going to be a concrete mutual bounderies and understanding for each others space and time/lack of time.
3) Can both of you live apart and still have the discipline/energy to nurture your relationship as much as you would if yall were to live together.

Okay im done being Dr.Phil, hope it helps lol Good luck!!

I am in the same boat as you and struggling with making that decision. I am leaning towards taking the scholarship. My advice to you is to consider where you want to practice, then compare the two schools in relative to the region you wish to practice in. The regional chart (someone posted it on here in the previous post) should give you a better indication on comparing those two schools. I do want to note that I am leaning towards the scholarship not just because of the money, the school I am considering is competitive in the region I wish to practice in and I am okay with recieving a degree from the school even if i lose the scholarship. You want to be sure just in case worst case scenerio you end up having to lose your scholarship/or finish on top of your class and not be able to place well in your region.

I know you are sitting there reading everything you can get your hands on, asking advice from everyone you think that can help you decide lol, but dont worry april is just around the corner you soon will make your decision and just go with it. Dont look back and torture yourself with the "what if" thoughts lol

Good luck to you man, I feel your pain lol

Black Law Students / Re: The Howard Law/HBCU Law Schools Thread
« on: February 12, 2009, 04:45:54 PM »
I finally finished reading this thread, it was my goal to finish reading this thread from beginning to end since I am considering Howard as well..whewwwwwwwwww..yall be wylin in here but very informative lol

LOL.  I aint heard ya'll "be wylin" in  quite some time.   ;) :D

next thing will be "NYC is the realest" or Howard law is the "illest"/ "dopest"  :D 

lemme stop. 

Cui bono, now you WYLIN lol and Howard is the dopest and illest, can u tell im a D.C boy yet? lol

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