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New York Law School / Re: New York Law and harsh curve
« on: August 16, 2008, 05:23:27 PM »
CCP students also aren't allowed to take summer classes, be on Moot Court or get an internship.  So say 'bye bye' to padding your resume and making prospective employers forget about the crappy grade you got in the Federal Income Tax class that you HAD to take even though its no longer tested on the NY bar.  But then again, that would mean they'd have to actually look at the courses that you took instead of just skipping to your GPA.  That doesn't happen.  All that is seen is that GPA.  And lack of rank if you had the honor of being in CCP-7.

Plus it was the same story everytime.  Your GPA & ranking will never be higher than those of non-CCP students because they're able to supplement their bad grades with grades from courses such as Internet Law (they only had to sign into a chatroom for 1 hour every Monday - my friend would do it from her apartment while drinking wine or having people over).  Also there were always a couple of CCP students who did MUCH better than non-CCP students when they were taking the same class.  Not just counting those that got lucky b/c they missed the 1st semester cut-off.  It was all because of those 1st semester grades. 

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Chapman v. NYLS v. Suffolk?
« on: July 24, 2008, 01:20:16 PM »
At NYLS you will be faced with EXCELLENT career prospects.  Case in point, the latest job posting on the NYLS career site:

Title:  Driver Messenger
Description:  DRIVER-MESSENGER
DIVISION OF COURT OPERATIONS
$29,426 + $1,302 LOCATION PAY
NON COMPETITIVE

QUALIFICATIONS:

SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE EIGHTH GRADE OR THE EQUIVALENT; AND POSSESSION OF A
VALID DRIVERS LICENSE IN NEW YORK STATE TO OPERATE THE TYPE OF MOTOR VEHICLE IN USE;
OR AN EQUIVALENT COMBINATION OF EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE.
DISTINGUISHING FEATURES OF WORK:

Driver-Messengers are responsible for operating motor vehicles and delivering court and other documents, and materials to courts, government agencies, and other buildings. They also transport court employees on official business and perform various routine clerical and other related duties.

ASSIGNMENT:

In addition to the work features mentioned above, Drivers-Messengers will be required to assist the office in
normal day to day activities including, but not limited to, data entry and moving/shelving records storage boxes.
(Average weight per box is 30-40 pounds.)


YES, you can use that NYLS JD to drive a truck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  In fact, it clearly says that all you need is an 8th grade education and a driver's license.  The greatest thing is that someone at Career Services actually sat there and thought "Why yes, this is the sort of job our alum would be perfect for."

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New York Law School / Re: Opinions about NYLS
« on: July 24, 2008, 01:15:55 PM »
"you have to stay an extra semester (paid by the school)"

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Its NOT paid for by the school.  CCP-7 students are only allowed to take a maximum of 12 credits per semester but are STILL charged the full-time tuition which cover 16 credits.  Soooooooooooooooooo, you've already paid for that 'extra' semester.

In actuality, its an additional expense to the student b/c you're forced to pay for an extra semester of books, living and traveling expenses, etc.

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New York Law School / Re: Opinions about NYLS
« on: July 24, 2008, 12:51:10 PM »
At NYLS you will be faced with EXCELLENT career prospects.  Case in point, the latest job posting on the NYLS career site:

 
Description:  DRIVER-MESSENGER
DIVISION OF COURT OPERATIONS
$29,426 + $1,302 LOCATION PAY
NON COMPETITIVE

QUALIFICATIONS:

SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE EIGHTH GRADE OR THE EQUIVALENT; AND POSSESSION OF A
VALID DRIVERS LICENSE IN NEW YORK STATE TO OPERATE THE TYPE OF MOTOR VEHICLE IN USE;
OR AN EQUIVALENT COMBINATION OF EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE.
DISTINGUISHING FEATURES OF WORK:

Driver-Messengers are responsible for operating motor vehicles and delivering court and other documents, and materials to courts, government agencies, and other buildings. They also transport court employees on official business and perform various routine clerical and other related duties.

ASSIGNMENT:

In addition to the work features mentioned above, Drivers-Messengers will be required to assist the office in
normal day to day activities including, but not limited to, data entry and moving/shelving records storage boxes.
(Average weight per box is 30-40 pounds.)


YES, you can use that NYLS JD to drive a truck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  In fact, it clearly says that all you need is an 8th grade education and a driver's license.  The greatest thing is that someone at Career Services actually sat there and thought "Why yes, this is the sort of job our alum would be perfect for."

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New York Law School / Re: New York Law and harsh curve
« on: July 24, 2008, 12:43:20 PM »
It's a 1.7 to fail out and the curve is 2.67.  My year was the 1st year that CCP was implemented for.  In order to be in CCP, you had to have a 2.55 or lower.  Soooooo, basically not much lower than the curve.  For my year, it was based upon 1st SEMESTER grades.  Not your 1st year grades.  So technically, you could have ended up w/ a higher CUMULATIVE gpa than a lot of other people but you were screwed and they weren't.  The administration said it was 'unfair' to put them in CCP b/c they didn't take the 1st required CCP class.  They claim to have since changed that.  Also, none of this was included in the admissions information given to my year (you receive brochures based upon information from the previous year and since CCP hadn't been implemented that year, it was never included in our admissions).

CCP is a ridiculous program b/c those people are forced to take the extremely difficult courses instead of 'easy A' courses that everyone else can take.  The effect being that it its IMPOSSIBLE for you to bring up your GPA.  You will ALWAYS have a low gpa.  In addition, if you have the honor of staying for the 'extra' semester, you don't get any ranking.  So pray to god that no employers ask for it.

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Financial Aid / Re: My financial Aid Package. Is this the norm??
« on: July 11, 2008, 10:28:19 PM »
JCDenton is only telling you the truth.  NYLS is the 3rd most expensive law school in the country.  Its NOT worth it.  You're already qualifying for a Perkins loan and then you pick this expensive waste?  The curve at NYLS is a B-, 50% must get above and 50% must get below.  Which means not only do you not have a great law school name on your resume, you'll probably have a pretty sh*tty GPA and class rank to match. 

Then when you do graduate, you'll be UNEMPLOYED!!  Those statistics they show for students with 'full-time employment' aren't really what they seem.  NYLS will count waitressing full-time in those statistics. 

But since your mind is already made up, go ahead.  With a grading curve like that, those 5 people in your class of 300 who make BigLaw will need all the help they can get in maintaining their own rankings. 

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They don't tell you the retention rates b/c most people don't retain them.  You do realize that its a B- curve at NYLS?  50% have to get above and 50% have to get below.  If you're anywhere in the middle of the class, you're screwed b/c you can get dropped up to 2 letter grades.  And don't think you'll be immune b/c just ONE class will mess up your gpa.  I graduated in 2007 and I only know ONE person who was able to keep their scholarship.

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