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Law School Applications / Re: Rank your priorities
« on: November 04, 2008, 04:33:26 PM »
I find it hard to pin down a ranking of the sorts of things I care about (stuff like prestige, $$$, location, job for partner, etc.). I guess I will just try to assess what sort of position (financially/jobs/etc.) I will be in when I get out, and decide based on that. If I had to rank though:

1) Prestige (I would take my #1 pick over my #10 pick no matter what else was thrown in... maybe a yacht.

2) $$$

3) Location


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arg no not at all. I've got some weaknesses in my app (2 W's on my transcript, caught with alcohol freshman year, plus another minor disciplinary thing in the dorms, only 4 classes a few semesters) and no crazy work experience. I seriously wasn't flaming, just my nature to lower expectations. Also, not sure that my PS is great...been working on it, but do you think its a make or breaker for harvard/columbia etc?

Unless you electronically defecate on your application I would be shocked to see you not crack the T14. I think your safeties seem fine. Your predictions are conservative but seem justified. No Northwestern love though? I'd prefer NU over Chicago, but I live in Chicago, so I probably have different biases than others.


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Law School Applications / Re: filling out the common app on LSAC
« on: November 03, 2008, 09:57:17 AM »
I think the way the common application works is that you put all that information down, and then it auto fills applications for you from that information when it is asked for by an application. I may be wrong here, but if not, you might as well just put everything down.

Either way, a good general rule of thumb is do what the application asks for.


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Law School Applications / Re: Thinking about chances
« on: November 03, 2008, 09:41:07 AM »
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It is tempting to think that 25th and 75th percentile LSAT scores indicate the make-up of an entering class.

But...they do.

I guess that clears up that. I just thought "admitted students" meant accepted. (In my defense, Dictionary.com defines admit as "to allow to enter; grant or afford entrance to: to admit a student to college."


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Law School Applications / Re: 3.8/169 ED?
« on: November 02, 2008, 11:15:03 PM »
"Ugh . . . our LRAP is fine.  It's 10k for at least 7 years.  I think the number is 8.

Please be more careful about throwing things out there in the future."



Here's a way to say the same thing without sounding like a prick:

"Chicago's LRAP is 10k for at least 7 years. I think the number is 8. I feel that this is very reasonable and serves well the purpose for which it was designed."

(To clarify, this is a way you could have made the same point without sounding like a prick; I am well aware that I sound like a prick in pointing it out (no pun intended).)


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Law School Applications / Thinking about chances
« on: November 02, 2008, 11:05:57 PM »
Something recently occured to me. There is a realy sense in which admissions data can be misleading. It is tempting to think that 25th and 75th percentile LSAT scores indicate the make-up of an entering class. However, unless you are Yale, the majority of the top end are probably only applying as a safety. So you are not really competing against those people for spots in the class, because they are unlikely to take safety schools up on offers unless things go poorly elsewhere.

Think about this: Annually, there are less than 1,500 people who are in the top 1% of LSAT takers. (Less than 150,000 people take the test per year.) The top five schools metriculate well over 1500 students every year. The same people that got accepted to these schools applied to a lot of other schools in the T14, and most are not going to those other t14 schools.

This leads me to believe that the sort of people you are actually competing with for spots (those that might actually take your seat) have LSATs of a lower medium than the data might lead one to believe.

(This post engages in a number of simplifications--such as the assumption that people go to the highest ranked school to which they get accepted--but I think the main point remains valid.)


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Recommendations / How many LoRs are you sending in?
« on: November 02, 2008, 10:36:22 PM »
I am pretty set on sending in only two LoRs to each school. I have a spare in case there is any school that demands 3+.


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Law School Applications / Re: Is this normal?
« on: November 02, 2008, 06:11:58 PM »
Why cant you dummies just tell the OP that they will request report.  Sarcasm isn't a beocminng trait.  Dummies.

Oh, wow, you so mature. Can we please be best friends?


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See my LSN.  I suspect its at very best a completely irrelevant soft factor.

Is your name a reference to the Bill and Ted flash cartoon? If so, nice.


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From what I have heard, there doesn't seem to be a big deal about multiple scores, even if there isn't addendum.  I talked to some schools that said that they averaged, and they said that as long as the addendum basically said that you didn't cheat, you would be just fine.  I did some research on LSN, because I'm going to have multiple scores, but they don't show multiple scores right now on LSN...

This post might be misleading. All schools now take the higher score more seriously, and almost all use the higher score almost exclusively. The reason is that the higher score is the one now reported to the ABA for purposes such as reporting a schools 25th and 75th percentiles. Yes, law schools really are that mercenary and cynical. Ignore adcoms' claims that they are primarily interested in student quality.


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