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Thanks for the answer.  From talking to a few lawyers (with T1 degrees), they seem to think it does not matter as much.  From what I gather, if I work in the same city as the courting potential T3, I'm fine.  With T1, I can work regionally or in a few select cities that these school feeds into.  Does this seem correct.... 

at the very least, i would check the restrictions on the full scholarship. if it's unconditional, it might be worth it. if it requires a 3.0 and the curve is 2.5 or something, i would think twice.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: University of Chicago Class of 2011
« on: February 09, 2009, 09:21:14 PM »
on to bigger and better things. the musical is a week from friday and is going to be awesome. for the 1Ls here, there is unlimited beer and pizza on friday for the price of a ticket (somewhere between $15-20), as well as a pit band, students dancing and singing (for the most part, in a cute yet amateur fashion), and a special faculty cameo somewhere in the show. i have no idea who it will be. my 1L year it was professor cox, but last year it was gersen and miles.

Also, sometimes complete strangers pour beer all over you and you get to go to a sketchy hot dog place with David Lat. So there's that.

the beer spilling is pretty standard but i was definitely performing for david lat last year.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: University of Chicago Class of 2011
« on: February 09, 2009, 03:50:05 PM »
omg at "posner answers the feminists" today. who wanted to hug posner/hit him in the face with a pie? (i'm in the latter group.)

What wasn't to like about Posner? He shot down an entire critical perspective in under 10 seconds. Oh yeah, maybe thats what not like about him. Whatever, good laugh.

i really enjoyed his "WE HAVE BIGGER THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT THAN YOUR MAIN FIELD OF STUDY, PROFESSOR CASE". yes, we all make fun of case for her obsession with unisex bathrooms. but....that's now my favorite argument. why do i skip class? WE HAVE BIGGER THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT, LIKE THE WAR ON TERROR.

i have case for sex discrimination and we spent virtually the entire next class discussing the debate. she's seriously a class act and was trying to defend posner when all of us were insulting him. (i should point out that my problem with his performance was that he's incredibly smart, yet didn't seem to even try to address any of nussbaum or cases' arguments. he was clearly unprepared and didn't even make an attempt to answer their questions.)

yes, i am a feminist, in case that wasn't abundantly clear.

on to bigger and better things. the musical is a week from friday and is going to be awesome. for the 1Ls here, there is unlimited beer and pizza on friday for the price of a ticket (somewhere between $15-20), as well as a pit band, students dancing and singing (for the most part, in a cute yet amateur fashion), and a special faculty cameo somewhere in the show. i have no idea who it will be. my 1L year it was professor cox, but last year it was gersen and miles.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Questions to ask at ASD or during a tour
« on: February 04, 2009, 01:07:46 PM »
i think the best thing to do is to ask more personal questions about the student's experience. i always try to give some background information about where i went to undergrad, where i'm going post-graduation, my current housing, etc. i've led tours and been asked about the transition from CA to chicago, how many hours a day i study, how OCI went for me in particular. stuff like that forces tour guides to stop spouting admissions stats and give you a more personal look at the school. i've found most student tour leaders to be honest about their job prospects and how much they study (whether it's barely at all or 5 hours a day).

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Finding a Bernstein outline is like monkey flying a plane.

I've asked nearly a dozen 3Ls and people are a combination of 1) don't care 2) de facto dropped out of school already . . . sorry 3) really don't care 4) dude, make your own outline, you can't see mine (how rude to respond this way . . . I would certainly love to help 1Ls when I'm a 3L).

:(

i used a general K outline so i don't think there were very many out there to begin with....plus i basically delete most of my notes/outlines once i'm done with the class.

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Most people is probably the key qualifier.  I know a 2L who seemed pretty disappointed about Corps.  He said Henderson wanted a "narrative" exam, but he wasn't able to write with that style.

That sucks about the curve.

If anyone else would like to weigh in on the electives (*cough* Bosco), I would love to hear some thoughts.  I'm leaning toward legislation right now, but I'm not sure I'll get it.

there's always a few rogue grades...i know secured transactions grades last quarter seemed really random.

i took parent, child, and the state, which i liked. i had e. posner for "international human rights law" which sounds similar to his elective this year. he was funny because on the first day he basically said "i don't believe in international law". he also didn't do socratic, which is nice if you care about that sort of thing.

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it's really sad how quickly i figured out what ITE stood for.

wally: i think after OCI, people settle down more about grades. after three quarters worth, you sort of figure out where you lie in the class and most people seem okay with it. i think OCI was tougher this year (and maybe next year) so people may be more concerned than they seemed to be my 1L year. basically all my 2L and 3L classes have followed the curve.

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As for the debt part I don't know how to answer that because I'm not going to have that much debt.     

well then that's why you don't understand the hysteria.

Proposed solution: poor people stop attending law school.

Seriously. Don't tell me that these swarms of reasonably bright (vel non) 20-somethings didn't realize the risk of loading up with 6-figures worth of debt prior to securing gainful employment.

Personally, I think most people on this thread are overshooting on the extent of the recession (which is a commonly observed behavior after fallouts). The class that is MOST screwed? The 2009s. Expect a wave of offer rescinds this spring. I imagine that there will be a recovery by the beginning of 2010. It may not be a boom (that's a whole 'nother ball of wax that economists are worried about) but it's doubtful that current 2Ls are going to be hit that hard; same is true to a greater extent for current 1Ls.

But say that that doesn't happen. Say that things stay in the shitter. Well, guess what Chachi, that's the price you pay for debt loading yourself. No one forced you to come to ls; the cost was apparent upfront; firms don't pretend to hire you on anything but an at will basis; 6-figure jobs don't grow on trees

Hate to be harsh, but a self-inflicted 'hysteria' is hard to sympathize with.

i actually disagree pretty strongly with this. revoking post-graduation employment offers is tantamount to OCI suicide at a school in the future; i know most of the 2Ls at my school didn't interview with firms that only hired half (or less) of their 2L summer class or something. most firms are sucking it up, employing all their 3L offerees, and cutting down on the 2010 summer class (for the record, while there's been some talk on ATL about firms rescinding offers if 2Ls don't accept right away, i haven't heard of one firm revoking a post-graduation offer).

again, this may just be wishful thinking on my part, but i'm pretty sure it's backed by the evidence.

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i still have no clue what my eventual "specialization" will be. a few law firms require (and most don't even require this) you to pick "corporate" or "litigation" before your 2L summer. you'll probably have a decent idea of which area to pursue after 1L year and after talking with a lot of practicing lawyers. even then, plenty of people switch between areas after passing the bar and practicing for a few years.

i hate to echo what everyone is telling you, but seriously, i wouldn't worry about it at this point. at the most, talk to a few practicing attorneys and see what their specialty is about, and maybe what classes they would recommend.

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omg at "posner answers the feminists" today. who wanted to hug posner/hit him in the face with a pie? (i'm in the latter group.)

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