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At the request of several posters, I've transferred the previous posts to the section of the board unavailable to public view without an account.  If there's a consensus that they should be completely deleted then just let me know and we'll make it so.

If I may offer a small suggestion: it is generally wise to avoid discussing confidential/personal information on any message board, especially one involving the tight knit legal community.


Criticism of the law school musical and the subsequent, overblown "It's inconsiderate to call a spade a spade," outcry are worthy of censorship? LSD is like Autoadmit's Mormon cousin.

i'm actually curious as to whether wally's initial post or the subsequent responses were deemed "hatorade". at this point it's over, but wally should know that he's not nearly as anonymous on this forum as he thinks. seriously, if you must vent about universally approved subjects and/or people, like the musical or strauss, there basically is no anonymous forum to do so on the internet that i'm aware of (besides a private online journal). a bunch of people who never post are aware of lots of our identities. so i still think being overly-cautious is best...

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I like how the LSA email tries to say "Watch out for roofies" without actually saying it explicitly.

i think there was some incident at bar review at some point...but i don't think it was a law student?

anyway, most 3Ls i know aren't going. law school prom will probably be my last big par-tay before graduation.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: how do grades work in law school
« on: February 12, 2009, 12:15:32 PM »
Yea, I just can't stand flames.  So many of these guys are just completely different people online, hiding behind the pseudo-anonymity of their LSD personas.

no, apparently, he really does study way more than his counterparts.

Depends on which counterparts you're comparing him to.

he studies a lot, even by new graduate residence hall standards (which are absurdly higher than regents/grad housing, etc.)

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Personal Statement / Re: DS Topic...
« on: February 11, 2009, 09:28:24 PM »
Thanks for the clarification.

I wrote my PS on how I dropped out of HS my jr year to help support my family. Reflected on mother's experience being Peruvian immigrant w/ limited hs education & broken English, and how hard she worked to support us thru my childhood b/c father left and evaded child support for YEARS. I began working FT and then got GED and returned to school. Worked FT and went to school FT, graduated last year...Do you think that could be used as my DS, and I could use my other idea for my PS?

i really think a PS should be about your personal development. if you reflect on what your mom did, however admirable, i think it's more of a college personal statement (i talked a lot about my mom in my college essays)....by law school admission time, you should be reflecting more on your individual growth and why your path has led you to believe law is a field you'd excel in and enjoy (though not in such obvious terms: "i want to attend law school because...."). i would narrow the scope of your PS if you're really discussing all of the above; most schools only want up to two pages double-spaced.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: how do grades work in law school
« on: February 11, 2009, 06:37:53 PM »
Yea, I just can't stand flames.  So many of these guys are just completely different people online, hiding behind the pseudo-anonymity of their LSD personas.

no, apparently, he really does study way more than his counterparts. he's just less obviously....elitist in person and actually does work for decent grades. still there's no way in hell that firms are only hiring from t10 or t14, even in OMGTHISECONOMY. if you're on scholarship and smart about networking (and still attending a good school like alabama), i still think you're okay if the scholarship conditions aren't absurd.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: how do grades work in law school
« on: February 11, 2009, 08:04:41 AM »
So what?  The rankings are virtually meaningless after the top ten or so.  Nobody actually thinks, for instance, that Iowa is more prestigious than Fordham.

This forum serves the useful function of a reality check.  We're not here to sugarcoat.  I'm sick of all of the flowery "you'll be fine" bull that turns people into cynical, indebted people by the time graduation rolls around.

this is really harsh. i think plenty of people attending schools outside of the top 10 on this board have been told of the risks plenty of times, but in this case, bama is ranked #32 and this person has a scholarship (since we don't know the conditions, it could be set for all three years or have an extremely generous grading scale; this isn't a TTT that flunks out 20% of the class after 1L year). if they want to practice in alabama, this seems like a pretty good place to go.

OP, ask what the grading curve is and what the scholarship conditions are. if they're unreasonable: average is a 2.7 and scholarship requires a 3.3 or something, that's risky. if it just requires good academic standing, i.e. passing grades, or an average of 2.5 when the curve is 3.0, and you want to practice in alabama or the southeast, sounds like a good deal.

How is sharing a school with this guy (Freely Give Leave...)?

he's really nice but...intense, especially online (i knew he probably would be going in after following his application cycle). yes, the economy is tough but that doesn't mean that only t10 grads are getting jobs. it depends on the market, grades, interviewing skills, personal connections, the number of interviews you can get at OCI or through mass mailing and networking. i just feel like i'm constantly trying to mitigate some of his controversial comments..I SWEAR MOST OF US ARE MORE NORMAL AT CHICAGO.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: how do grades work in law school
« on: February 11, 2009, 04:41:11 AM »
So what?  The rankings are virtually meaningless after the top ten or so.  Nobody actually thinks, for instance, that Iowa is more prestigious than Fordham.

This forum serves the useful function of a reality check.  We're not here to sugarcoat.  I'm sick of all of the flowery "you'll be fine" bull that turns people into cynical, indebted people by the time graduation rolls around.

this is really harsh. i think plenty of people attending schools outside of the top 10 on this board have been told of the risks plenty of times, but in this case, bama is ranked #32 and this person has a scholarship (since we don't know the conditions, it could be set for all three years or have an extremely generous grading scale; this isn't a TTT that flunks out 20% of the class after 1L year). if they want to practice in alabama, this seems like a pretty good place to go.

OP, ask what the grading curve is and what the scholarship conditions are. if they're unreasonable: average is a 2.7 and scholarship requires a 3.3 or something, that's risky. if it just requires good academic standing, i.e. passing grades, or an average of 2.5 when the curve is 3.0, and you want to practice in alabama or the southeast, sounds like a good deal.

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Personal Statement / Re: Diversity Essay
« on: February 11, 2009, 04:29:53 AM »
is it required for a scholarship or something? plenty of people in your circumstances don't write a DS (i didn't, with a similar background to yours) and it may hurt more than help if you seem to be grasping at straws.

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Personal Statement / Re: DS Topic...
« on: February 11, 2009, 04:25:18 AM »
i would say not a good diversity statement, but has the makings of a good personal statement.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: How do I choose???
« on: February 11, 2009, 04:19:41 AM »
study hard, do well on your exams, earn your way onto law review and get scholarships for your second and third years.

That's not quite how it works.

But yeah, she should probably go to Penn.

Oh yeah? How exactly does IT work, then?...tell me.  ::)

At Penn, your first private-sector summer internship pays $30K, that will pay back those first-year loans. And all you need at Penn to get a good private-sector internship is a B- average. And if your grades are really strong, firms roll out the red carpet...it works exactly like that; I have seen it up close. It's that way at pretty much any T-14. 



i too thought i would be raking in $30K my 2L summer. after my 1L summer loan of $5000 and taxes/social security/medicare, it was half that (although i expect a nice refund this year). bottom line, plan on $20K at most your 2nd summer; most firms aren't even hiring 1Ls this year.

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