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Minority Topics / Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
« on: May 11, 2009, 01:42:54 PM »
well from what i hear these two black people hate most

#1 Jews
#2 Koreans

Both share some common traits.

You people are ignorant.  I feel sorry for your classmates.

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For some reason, this is not surprising, and it really shouldn't matter.  Isn't cheating the american way?  That's what it seems like to me.  Sorry guys, i'm a history major.  lol  :D

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I don't think you can prepare for law school.  My college professors told me to get drunk all summer prior to going.  Now that 1L year is over, i agree with that piece of advice.  However, these are some things that I personally did that may or may not have benefitted me. Start a journal and write you pure thoughts in a logically coherent way.  I think this enabled me to write well on exams (1st semester) because I was able to coherently and precisely convey my thoughts.  I also read Reading like a lawyer from Ruth Ann McKinney.  Pretty good read.  Getting to maybe is also a book that most law students and professors recommend.

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Textual Commitment - Article I - Legislative Power, Article II - Executive Power, Article III - Judicial Power.  If the issue at hand falls specifically within Article I, II, or III, the Constitution commits the matter to that particular branch of Gov.

Justiciable Discoverable & Manageable Standard in the Constitution - this is self explanatory.  Has the court ruled on such an issue before, or has the court developed a test for resolving such an issue. 

Prudential Strand - Basically, does this issue, in some way, implicate the separation of powers.  If so, itís a political question. 

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Affirmative Action / Re: The Howard Law/HBCU Law Schools Thread
« on: May 02, 2009, 09:12:52 PM »
lol you are a joke. That's like me saying slavery gave non-minorities the ultimate opportunity and advantage.  That's like me saying if it weren't for slavery whites would not have wealth or power.  Although this may be true, it would be pointless to make this apparent everytime  I get the opportunity (ie non-minorities and affirmative action)  Your argument is the slipperist of slippery slopes.  Move ur affirmative action opinions to the affirmative action thread please.  Thank you.

Bottom line, affirmative action benefits some blacks, but not all  blacks.  When one assumes that affirmative action is the only reason that blacks achieve greater status in America (ie. a better job/job opportunity than you), he only reveals the racial biases inherent within himself.  We can compare law to sports or any other occupation....there will always be players and students that do not go to the "top tier/big name" but are capable of competing with and out working/playing the kid that went to the "top-tier school" any day of the week.  Howard just happens to be a breeding ground of this sort, and employers across America realize this as well....and that's basically why they recruit here more than they recruit at your school or "top tier" schools.  Next topic please.

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Affirmative Action / Re: The Howard Law/HBCU Law Schools Thread
« on: May 02, 2009, 08:09:45 PM »
You made no reference to affirmative action or racial preference.  You simply said that they - minority judges, students, and graduates of Howard Law - get their positions because they are black.  Believe me we do not want to get into this affirmative action bs.

I guess it's impossible that they (howard students/grads/minority's that land positions at the top firms/minority judges) actually possess a different caliber of talent than the kids at the "top-tier" schools or the non-minorities that they were chosen over.  I guess it's also impossible that howard students and grads go and out perform students and grads of the "top-tier" schools. 

Contracts- I think that is a racist statement to make. 

That affirmative action exists?  That preference for blacks exists?  Those are true facts.  Don't scream "racist" any chance you get.

 
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There are quality black students all across the country....Why Howard?  Maybe because the school is known for making quality contributions to the legal community.  History serves as proof...Howard Students Produce.  Check out the top 20 schools that has produced the most judges (American legal System)....see where Howard ranks in comparison to your "top-tier" schools. 

Once again, because they are black. 

Why does Howard Law produce more judges than some of the "top tier schools?"  There are black attorneys all across the nation; some are even graduates of the "top tier" schools....so why does Howard produce more judges - not "black judges" - but more judges than many of the "top - tier" schools?  "Because they are black" is an insufficent answer to this question, and affirmative action is an insufficient reason for your insufficent answer.   

If anyone has any non-biased, non-racial questions about Howard Law, I will be glad to assist you.  Don't waste my time with your affirmative action ncomments.   8)

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Contracts- I think that is a racist statement to make.  White students and non-black minorites attend howard and they get good jobs as well.  There are quality black students all across the country....Why Howard?  Maybe because the school is known for making quality contributions to the legal community.  History serves as proof...Howard Students Produce.  Check out the top 20 schools that has produced the most judges (American legal System)....see where Howard ranks in comparison to your "top-tier" schools. 

Not a stretch at all Ninja.  Do your research and you will see that Howard students get better opportunities than many of the schools in the Top 25.  White students at Howard receive the same opportunities and benefits as minority students.  I really do not understand why this is such a misconception. Bar passage rates have nothing to do with employment prospects/job opportunities; however, I will say two things:

1.Most state schools prepare their students to take the bar in that repsective state.  Howard students take the bar in a number of states (GA, VA, Cali, FLA, NC, DC, NJ), and mostly in NY. Prior to adding a Bar fee to our tuition, students would normally take the bar without taking barbri or other bar prep courses.  This has contributed to low 1st time bar passage rates. 

2. To strengthen bar passage rates, Howard has added a fee of $1500 (if not a few hundred dollars less) to 1L tuition.  This fee will be credited to students after graduation, to go toward a bar course in their respective state.  Also, Howard SBA has organized programs designed to help 3L's prepare for the bar throughout the course of the year - ie: Saturday bar prep sessions etc. 

Obama - gotta love your name as well!  I do not know much about the East towers grad dorms; however, I do know that law students stay there...some, but not many.  Also, there is a Howard trolly bus that runs from Howard Law to East Towers. I do commute to Howard; most students do.  The communte can be time consuming, especially if you do not intend to drive.  I would honestly discourage you from staying far away from school; 1 1/2 hours each direction is too far.  Law school is tiring, and a long commute will only make you more tired and less effective.  Try to find housing that is within 25-30 from campus (one way).  All of the apartments/homes around Howard Law are expensive (ie: $1500 + for a one bedroom w/o utilities).  However, I do recommend this to all incoming 1L's: If you can afford to stay close to school, you should do it.  The school stays open 24 hours, so those that live close actually use this to their advantange. I initially wanted to stay close to the school, but it did not work out. 

Hope that helps, sorry for the run-on's, spelling, and gramatical errors, but i'm tired.  Feel free to ask more questions. 


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If you are white, yellow, or green, and didn't get into a top 25 school you should consider Howard.  Why?  Because we get better employment prospects than half of the top 25. 

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I am a Howard 1L and I am willing to answer any specific questions about Howard Law.  I have 2 exams left, so post your questions and I will respond after Monday May 4, 2009. 

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