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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Civil disobedience and the age of consent
« on: November 25, 2011, 03:33:25 PM »

I'm sure most people that read this board have been at parties/a club/etc. where a girl gets wasted and would be very easy to take advantage of.  A big indicator of the moral fiber of dudes is how they behave when in that type of situation.  Any guy, no matter his age, that takes advantage of the girl in such circumstances is by definition a sexual predator and should be prosecuted and put in the lifetime sex offender registry since if they are willing to do it once, they will probably do it again given the opportunity.  The guys with a moral compass pointing in the correct direction will not take advantage of and hopefully will try to protect the girl somehow.

What you're describing there is just flat-out rape, though.  It's not statuatory rape.  It's just rape.


Sex between young people that are in a relationship and/or it is clearly consensual/agreed to with clear minds is a different story.  Most prosecutors usually take all these things into account when evaluating/weighing the available evidence and statements while deciding how to deal with the case. 

Sorry, but that's a total bull basis for a law.  What you're saying is that you won't get charged with statuatory rape, even if you are guilty of it, if the prosecutor doesn't feel like it.. unless he does.

A public policy that's based on "well... prosecutors usually won't completely destroy your life except when they feel like it" is bad public policy.

No, that is not what I said or implied.  Statutory rape is still rape.  The age of consent laws vary by state and there are discrepancies between jurisdictions.   

What I was talking about at the end of my previous post is prosecutorial discretion. 

Police officers and prosecutors have discretion to decide whether or not to make an arrest or to file charges with each situation that comes to their attention somehow. Whether that discretion is exercised in a way that you or everyone or whoever agrees with at the time is a different matter. It depends in part on the laws of the jurisdiction, the facts & circumstances of the incident plus the attitude/views/disposition of the law enforcement officials involved.  For police and/or prosecutors to become aware of an incident and get involved there has to be a report/complaint from somebody unless a cop just happens to stumble across people in the act in a public area.

There are plenty of incidents each year (not just sex cases, all types of situations including underage drinking, drug use, domestic disputes, etc.) where the police decide not to make an arrest or the district attorneys office decides not to file charges and prosecute.  That's part of how the criminal justice system works in practice.  Cops that find underage young kids doing stupid things at night/at a party/in a park/smoking/shoplifting/drinking/you name it/etc. frequently just take the kids home (while scaring the $hit out of them on the way), tell the parents what they found the kid(s) doing and then let the parents discipline them.

I agree with GGI about understanding the reason for and justification behind age of consent laws.  Many teenage and early/mid 20s age guys behavior and decisions are heavily influenced by hormones and them thinking with the wrong head.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Civil disobedience and the age of consent
« on: November 22, 2011, 06:55:15 PM »

It is certainly an emotionally charged topic but that doesn't prevent rational discussion of it. 

As already said, adults engaging in sexual behavior with adolescents/underage boys or girls is wrong and there is no rational or moral defense to such acts since it is clearly predatory.

The issue of sex between teenagers where one is over and the other under the legal age of consent (or even where they are both over the age of consent just barely or both under it depending on which set of state laws apply) presents a very different set of issues that are much more complicated and difficult to deal with.   

A lot of that mess and the legal/legislative backlash contained in the current sex offender laws was motivated by some notorious date rape and sometimes gang rape at a party and/or in a party environment cases where the offenders were caught 'red handed' by evidence of their dicks being where they shouldn't have been.  It's no secret that some teenage or younger boys do things to get young girls drunk or drugged up in order to get laid when at a party/club/wherever to prey on intoxicated girls in order to get their rocks off.  No matter the age of the boy or girl, when sex occurs while the young girl is heavily intoxicated/under the influence of something and would not otherwise consent, it is rape and the boy(s) that do it are sexual predators/deviants. 

I'm sure most people that read this board have been at parties/a club/etc. where a girl gets wasted and would be very easy to take advantage of.  A big indicator of the moral fiber of dudes is how they behave when in that type of situation.  Any guy, no matter his age, that takes advantage of the girl in such circumstances is by definition a sexual predator and should be prosecuted and put in the lifetime sex offender registry since if they are willing to do it once, they will probably do it again given the opportunity.  The guys with a moral compass pointing in the correct direction will not take advantage of and hopefully will try to protect the girl somehow.

Here is one of many news articles about a sickening case where a few teenage guys gang raped an intoxicated girl at a house party while the parents were out of town.  It's even more disgusting because the party was at the house of the assistant Sheriff of the county at the time and one of the rapists was his son, Gregory Haidl.
 
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-greg-haidl,0,1950024.story

Sex between young people that are in a relationship and/or it is clearly consensual/agreed to with clear minds is a different story.  Most prosecutors usually take all these things into account when evaluating/weighing the available evidence and statements while deciding how to deal with the case.  There are not that many boyfriend girlfriend consensual sex cases where the boyfriend was unfairly convicted and given the lifetime scarlet letter.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Civil disobedience and the age of consent
« on: November 21, 2011, 06:32:45 PM »
At this point I have to ask, OP are you even in lawschool?

It's one thing to debate laws, but I think you are just trying to get support for a sick addiction here.

+1056

The person is trying to justify pedophilia and other forms of adults taking advantage of young people/adolescents.  It's sick and twisted. The position has no merit no matter how you try to slice and dice or justify it.

Grab a clue and find a moral compass Beppo.


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General Off-Topic Board / Re: I can't find my wallet
« on: October 30, 2011, 06:47:26 AM »
ahh...the good ol' days on lsd.

ha ha.  Oh the memories. 

The late night drunk posts, later deleted ones, the great endless debates filled with vitriol, accusations, asinine positions and arguments, the race and whatever other hot political issue baiting fights and discussions.  Those were the days.  Now everyone is tortured because they have to get their fill of all that without reading or writing cuz they have to spend time pressing a few TV remote buttons to tune in cable shows/political news or touch an iPhone to watch stuff on the go while figuring out what to do with the other hand for other pleasures at the same time without the horrible burden of having to type out, read or write something longer than 140 characters.  Maybe Apple should program Siri to post peoples thoughts and complaints on LSD through the voice recognition/transcription technology. 

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: MLIC LSAT PREP COURSE
« on: October 27, 2011, 02:41:24 PM »

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: October 2011 LSAT Waiting Thread
« on: October 22, 2011, 06:45:02 AM »
I still think there's a good chance it comes out today....they set the release dates like 2 years in advance...  using that/past lsats to determine this release date presents some sort of logical flaw that I dont care to think of.

There is certainly a logical flaw or two you are ignoring.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT Tricks
« on: September 28, 2011, 06:42:35 PM »
It would be cheating.  You are only allowed to bubble answers for each section during the 35 minutes you have to do it.

http://www.lsac.org/JD/LSAT/day-of-test.asp#regulations



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Anyone seen this fun Cooley thing yet?  It's chock full of lulz.

http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202501495900&Law_school_strikes_back_again%3Cspan%20style=

I wish I could be surprised by that article. But in all honesty, if I were selected for a jury in a trial with Cooley as a litigant, I'd have to walk away. I just couldn't be objective. Worse still, I think it would be very difficult for anyone who did more than a moment's homework in applying to law school to be objective. Cooley has managed to obtain a reputation that is nearly impossible to defame because it can't be made much worse than it is already.

I laughed the hardest about this part:  "Thomas Cooley filed a separate suit against four anonymous bloggers who have posted unflattering comments about it online."

Really, only four anon bloggers?  Guess they haven't found this board or TLS yet!   :D


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People need to come back more often, like daily. This place is being overrun by dbags, and not even the entertaining kind like Xman.

I'm back and reporting for duty.  Go Exile!

I think a lot of the recent lamo dirtbag posts are from paid to post services Andrew hired.  There are a bunch of companies/internet groups/organizations of people that will pose as legit users (paid professional discussion board posters, yes it's a real job title!) to get posting volume up and conversations going about the topics of the board.  It's how Andrew got LSD going way back in the beginning and it seems he has gone back to that strategy since site activity died over the last few years while TLS grew.  As I see it, the main reason LSD died and TLS grew is because the search function works on TLS and their site hasn't been down or messed up with all sorts of ongoing tech issues/problems like LSD has been for several years due to Andrew being negligent.

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