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Incoming 1Ls / Re: any ideas on audio recorders?
« on: March 12, 2009, 11:44:54 AM »

Most professors don't allow audio recorders, and you're going to record too much information to be useful.

I live way off campus, so these are just my observations.

Living with other 1L's:
The Good:  You can carpool.  Parking can be a problem, so a carpool pass really helps.  Also, instant study group!
The Bad:  You already spend a LOT of time with these people, so if they are in your section there is the possibility that you might get sick of their faces.
Still, I know a few groups of 1L guys who live together and it seems to work very well. 

Living alone:
The Good:  You have a lot of study time and your own space.  You can get away from law school completely if you need to.
The Bad:  A little lonely, maybe.  No carpooling for you!
Depends on your personality.

Living with your frat brothers:  You need to move on from undergrad.  Meet new people.  Also, there is the danger that you're going to get sucked into excessive partying and/or not make new friends at law school.  Move on.

If I were in your position, I would live with other 1L's in an apartment where you each have your own space (own rooms and bathrooms).  Before last semester a lot of law students found their roommates on the UF law facebook group.  I haven't heard of any major problems with 1L's living together.

Good luck!  I hope you stay at UF Law.

I live in a law school fraternity and I think it's a great living situation. There's nothing forcing you to hang out with your housemates, so when things get busy or annoying, a quick trip to the library or a coffee shop will cure the communal living problems.

It's nice having people who are going through the same thing. Just make sure that if you live with random roommates that you do at least some screening (allergies, OCD, etc.)

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Please help me chose
« on: March 12, 2009, 11:37:54 AM »
Yeah, it really depends on where you want to practice.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: What to do during my 0L Spring and Summer
« on: January 25, 2009, 01:50:22 PM »
I love your blog, you're hilarious!! Between you, JD maybe, and thanks but no thanks, (and nontokenminority...) I always know I'll get my daily dose of sarcasm.

Thankyou for the valuable public service you perform!

Also, I second the turrow 1L book, it was a great read all on it's own and a great example of how not to do law school.

Gasp! I'm not sarcastic! But thank you anyway!  :D

Current Law Students / Re: Joy in law?
« on: January 25, 2009, 01:43:29 PM »
Honestly, I don't think the OP has the personality to become a lawyer.  Or at least not a BigLaw lawyer.  Maybe alternative dispute resolution or a yoga career is for you.


Best response ever.

Law school is pretty stress free for me. Definitely less stress than undergrad…
I think “joy in law school” depends on your personal philosophy and time management skills.

(any) school threatening your spirituality is more of a comment on the strength of your spirituality than the type of school.

As far as daily routine, it varies, but generally I find it easier to focus on course reading in blocks, so I’ll do all the reading for my MTW classes during the weekend and then focus on TH, F classes on Monday or Tuesday.

The buffer makes it so I never “have” to read if I don’t feel like it. So if I feel like going to the movies or hanging out with the boyfriend I can. If you procrastinate your reading then you're inviting stress.

Also, studying in groups at the law school can be counter productive and stress-inducing at well. Go to a public library, undergrad library, or cafe and you'll be fine.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: University of Minnesota 2011 -- The real U of M...
« on: January 25, 2009, 07:10:23 AM »
The cold really isn't that bad. Everything on campus is connected by underground hallways/tunnels so once you get to school you don't have to worry about the weather at all!

Current Law Students / Re: Judicial Internship vs. Paid Law Firm
« on: January 24, 2009, 08:11:02 PM »
Thank you all so very much. I think I'll take the judicial internship because:
1) I will like to clerk after I graduate in the U.S court of appeals at the least.
2) I am thinking of going into academia and working for a judge is always a good experience.
3) Even though I need the money, I am actually in a state law school so my debt is not as enormous as most people's
4) I will not like to stay permanently in the region the law firm is and I believe with the judge, most times, the district may not matter (correct me if I'm wrong).
5) I have very good grades so I will likely do well with OCI.

Any other comment will be appreciated.

Kudos! #5 is definitely true! Good luck with your internship!

Incoming 1Ls / Re: ADVICE for Incoming-1Ls
« on: January 24, 2009, 08:07:13 PM »
Here's four simple tips to doing well in law school.
1) Do ALL the reading. The teacher is assigning the material for a reason... and if you're a FT student without a job, then there's no excuse for not getting the reading done.
2) Make your own outline. Making your own outline forces you to incorporate all the material yourself and figure out how it all goes together. You can use someone else's outline as a guide, or as a 2nd outline, but you need to really assemble the material for yourself.
3) Don't rely on unassigned supplements. I've seen far too many people rely on Crunchtime and E&E and other supplements rather than actually putting in the work on the assigned material. If you want an explanation of something you didn't understand, then maybe a 'Mastering Torts' will be helpful, but remember... these are SUPPLEMENTS, not REPLACEMENTS for the actual cases.
4) Pay attention to the cases listed in the notes section of the differetn casebooks, or any footnoted case that's more than just a citation. I've seen professors grab the facts from a footnote case and use that as the basis for an exam question.
Good luck,

Good advice, just don't get too caught up in the footnotes. Certain books have sprawling footnotes with tons of hypos that tend to bog students down rather than help.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: ADVICE for Incoming-1Ls
« on: January 24, 2009, 08:06:01 PM »
Also, I don't think that facts of the cases matter AT ALL.  My exams were all essays were I applied the general rules and principles of the law to a specific fact pattern the teacher created.  This style is used by many law schools.  While the fact pattern sometimes bore resemblance to cases we read in class, the teacher did not expect us to cite the cases and wanted us only to apply the principles of the case to the hypothetical.  On my outline, I had one sentence for every case (which summarized the holding and facts) and one or two bullet points, as needed, to capture specific rules or "big ideas" contained within the case.

Generally good advice but case facts matter for certain professors (esp. Constitutional Law). If the professor will want you to reason by analogy or reference cases, they'll tell you... hopefully.

Also, DO THE READING...most professors cold call students and many (at least at my school) deduct points from your grade if your are unprepared.

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