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2L job search / Re: Completely disheartened by OCI
« on: September 12, 2008, 11:16:12 AM »
Just looking to moan...

I am ranked 5th in my class, have Law Review, CALI awards, and 7 years great experience as a corporate paralegal - and I am just buggering up OCI. I bid for 8, got 8 screening interviews and have had 6 so far. Of the 6, only 1 call-back. One rejection and 4 "heard nothings" but these interviews were roughly a week ago, so I figure if I haven't heard from them now, I am probably not going to.

I am just so despondent. I did a couple of "mock" screening interviews with our Career Service and they went great. I genuinely don't know where I'm going wrong. It's hard to accept that you look so much more impressive on paper than in person  :(

OK, pity party over. Unless anyone would care to join me?

I'm unranked in my class. No Journal. No Moot Court. No Awards. My background is in Media/PR/Advertising (through college internships, and my "gap year" job). I bid on every reasonably-acceptable job we had posted on OCI. I had 10 at an off-campus fair and 12 on-campus. I declined interviews with the JAG Corps, but accepted everything else I was offered.

So far, I have received 2.5 call-backs from that process (one firm only counts as 1/2, because we skipped the screening).

I have no offers yet.

Many of my classmates do have offers. It kind of makes you lose hope.

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General Board / Re: OCI = disheartening
« on: September 10, 2008, 08:08:40 PM »
I think OCI is actually a waste of time. Firms interview people they have no real interest in, just to fill out their schedule. Wasting the student's time as well as their own. Maybe there is an outside chance left to "wow" the firm, but very few law students are all that impressive.

Firms are far more honest about their interest when you get an interview via a mailing. Hence why everyone seems to suggest doing these huge mailings.

And I say that after receiving a rejection email 2 minutes ago from a firm I had an OCI interview with yesterday.

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General Board / Re: OCI = disheartening
« on: September 10, 2008, 08:07:08 PM »
I think OCI is actually a waste of time. Firms interview people they have no real interest in, just to fill out their schedule. Wasting the student's time as well as their own. Maybe there is an outside chance left to "wow" the firm, but very few law students are all that impressive.

Firms are far more honest about their interest when you get an interview via a mailing. Hence why everyone seems to suggest doing these huge mailings.

And I say that after receiving a rejection email 2 minutes ago from a firm I had an OCI interview with yesterday.

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General Board / Re: OCI = disheartening
« on: September 09, 2008, 02:45:13 PM »
I've had 2 callbacks via screening interviews so far. I've had 22 screening interviews, on-campus and at regional events.

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2L job search / Least Favorite Questions:
« on: September 08, 2008, 08:13:03 PM »
What are your least favorite interview questions?

I'll start:

What are your greatest strengths and weaknesses? (or worse yet, "3 strengths and 3 weaknesses")

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2L job search / Re: Lowenstein Sandler, Roseland NJ
« on: September 07, 2008, 11:29:05 PM »
Just wondering, man.  Good luck.  I'm hoping to land there or at Wolff Samson or even McCarter or English next summer.

 8)

It's a solid NJ firm.


Thanks, you too. I've got Lowenstein at the top of my list right now. So it will be extra-heartbreaking when the ding letter arrives.

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2L job search / Re: Lowenstein Sandler, Roseland NJ
« on: September 07, 2008, 09:37:47 PM »
Where do you folks go to school?

At a GOOD SCHOOL™

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2L job search / Re: Lowenstein Sandler, Roseland NJ
« on: September 03, 2008, 11:42:46 PM »
Has anyone gotten an offer from Lowenstein yet, or are they just taking their time?

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I had the same thing happen to me this week and I am a 3L. I thought it was interesting too.

Question - If the firm isn't doing OCI but calls me in for a 1 hour interview, it's still a screening interview right?

Eh, yeah, 1 hour is probably too short to be a callback. You never know, though. Why don't you ask if there will be a "follow-up" interview when you meet the recruiting director?

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Law School Applications / Re: Majors
« on: August 29, 2008, 09:47:52 AM »
Most law schools want to have a couple kids every year that will go on the lucrative IP track. Those kids need to be engineers/physicists/Biochem/other technical. With the exception that a lower GPA in those subjects MAY be accepted, the schools don't really seem to care what your major is at all. If anything, there is a general trend toward accepting diverse majors.

Anyway, this question is generally annoying and comes up repeatedly throughout the application cycle.

Technical degrees are hard because they are graded by examination, lend themselves to the curve and engineering/science professors tend to make difficult exams. Everything else is pretty much equal. Even your econ/finance degree.

The best major-selection advice: Pick a major that you enjoy, because you are more-likely to do well in those classes, and maybe end up as a reasonably well-adjusted person in the process.

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