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Law School Applications / Re: complete
« on: November 10, 2005, 03:34:58 PM »
complete at BU via post card postmarked 11/2.  havent seen too many yet on LSN, though, so maybe that was the first big batch.

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Law School Applications / Re: Gay Law Student Discussion Board
« on: November 08, 2005, 04:36:13 PM »
i'm sorry you feel like the very real disadvantages we all faced growing up gay must be rewarded with extra LSAT points.  i'm still trying to figure out how to take care of myself well enough to remedy some of that.

Oh, but you've misunderstood me.  I'd be more than happy to succeed on my merits alone, if that same standard applied to everyone else.

you've also misunderstood me, and in the guise of trying to offend me.  if the LSAT does not accurately assess merit for under-represented minorities (who are, after all, underrepresented at every stage of the process, including in the admissions office and at the LSAT creation meetings), then it only makes sense either to discount the LSAT or to weigh it differently than for people where it does accurately assess merit.

if you think that there is something in your past that makes the LSAT a less than accurate assessment of your reasoning ability, you should make that case very strongly and confidently.  i'm just not sure that being gay can be understood as one of the reasons.

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Law School Applications / Re: Gay Law Student Discussion Board
« on: November 08, 2005, 04:31:02 PM »
I don't want a bibliography.  I want 10 free points.  And I don't want to hear about Atlanta.  I come from the civilized North where people kind to minorities and where people eat with knives and forks.

i'm sorry you feel like the very real disadvantages we all faced growing up gay must be rewarded with extra LSAT points.  i'm still trying to figure out how to take care of myself well enough to remedy some of that.

i like it when people who are advocating AA for themselves use other stereotypes against others.  and reduce problems of segregation to trite statements about kindness.  in the south we try to be kind to everyone.  it's sort of what we're known for.  we are just not always that great at having our big personalities live side by side.

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Law School Applications / Re: Gay Law Student Discussion Board
« on: November 08, 2005, 04:26:11 PM »
i'm talking about in the U.S.  black men are less likely to be out of the closet, and less likely to identify as "gay" culturally and politically when they are.

Sadly, that is a result of rampant homophobia in the black community. Physician, heal thyself.

that is partly true.  it's also the result of many black men not feeling like their interests are represented by the white gay men that are mostly influential and exposed in the media.

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Law School Applications / Re: Gay Law Student Discussion Board
« on: November 08, 2005, 04:22:04 PM »
those who identify as "gay" tend to come more often from white backgrounds.  

Where did you get this from?  I run into a whole lot of asian and black gay guys.  It might be true in the United States, but thats just a result of the US being predominantly white anyhow.

I think the percentage is pretty steady throughout the world, its just more open in the US and Europe because it's allowed and not punished.

i'm talking about in the U.S.  black men are less likely to be out of the closet, and less likely to identify as "gay" culturally and politically when they are.  segregation between white and black men is especially prevalent in southern cities like atlanta, where i live.  also, political groups that represent gay people often have less racial diversity that you might expect.  although many of them do good work, organizations like the HRC are only now starting to make institutional diversity a big goal.  there are several papers and things on this, and i can get you a rough bibliography if you'd like.

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Law School Applications / Re: Gay Law Student Discussion Board
« on: November 08, 2005, 04:15:25 PM »
you guys are overstating your case.  racial minorities are not given preferences in the admissions process to make up for, reimburse, or account for the discrimination they have faced.  they are treated differently to fulfill two very important goals:  1)  to account for some of the racial bias of the LSAT, given that in content in form it appears to favor applicants with white, middle-class backgrounds who have had complete exposure to white, middle-class rational thinking and 2) to produce a legal profession that represents many different racial viewpoints.  affirmative action does, of course, benefit racial minorities, in that it produces more acceptances for them, but that is not its goal.

affirmative action for gay people would probably not help solve the first goal.  Even though people with same-sex attractions come from a broad variety of racial and economic backgrounds, those who identify as "gay" tend to come more often from white backgrounds.  it isnt clear whether out gay people are underrepresented in law school, although i know that several big law firms make it a point to increase the number of out lawyers they employ.  that said, share your experiences being gay on your applications; show how it influences your point of view and has influenced your performance in school.  it is likely that it can make an impact if you set it out confidently and honestly.

there are a few rewards to being a gay man.  sleeping with men is one of them, but guaranteed acceptance to law school isn't.

leave off dissing affirmative action as a whole until you understand its purpose.  gay people and black people have no real beef with each other.

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Law School Applications / Re: NWU Status Checker
« on: November 08, 2005, 03:03:28 PM »
yeah it would... she was really nice when i called and said i was complete.  she also said she'd resend the email, but it never came.  you should call and let them know that none of their emails are going out, and ask her if she will tell you if you are complete.

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Law School Applications / Re: NWU Status Checker
« on: November 08, 2005, 02:53:39 PM »
thanks.  she said they had sent it out via email, but none came.  so their email is broken.

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Law School Applications / Re: Northwester Complete App question
« on: November 08, 2005, 02:52:25 PM »
they supposedly sent out emails when they received your app, but i never got mine (with the status checker ID) so maybe you could call and ask them if they have sent that out and get them to send it again.

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Law School Applications / Re: NWU Status Checker
« on: November 08, 2005, 02:49:18 PM »
that's annoying.  did it come in an email from them?  a lot of people have said that their emails arent actually getting to them.

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