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General Board / Re: Library Eaters
« on: December 07, 2008, 09:11:13 PM »
To all of you that munch on doritos, goldfish, or any other type of snack food in the library:


I hate you.



The sound of you chewing makes me want tear my hair out. Whats that? You close your mouth while you chew? It doesn't matter because, while that may make you feel less obnoxious, I can still hear your molars grinding down your food from twenty feet away. In addition to making me completely lose focus on my studying, you make me want to vomit.

This is the law school version of: OMGZ somebody totally sneezed in the LSAT room and thatís what cause me to get a missbuble a whole section no fairz OMD cancel, retake, kill self?

PRO TIP: Life - its full of distractions



Sneezing is uncontrollable. Munching on some grindage in the lib is completely voluntary and inconsiderate. Anyways, I'm over it. I'm ready to rock my property test tomorrow. Right now I'm just resting and playing command and conquer red alert: windows 98 edish.

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General Board / Library Eaters
« on: December 07, 2008, 04:42:44 PM »
To all of you that munch on doritos, goldfish, or any other type of snack food in the library:


I hate you.



The sound of you chewing makes me want tear my hair out. Whats that? You close your mouth while you chew? It doesn't matter because, while that may make you feel less obnoxious, I can still hear your molars grinding down your food from twenty feet away. In addition to making me completely lose focus on my studying, you make me want to vomit.

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Ks Exams?
« on: December 07, 2008, 01:01:26 PM »
UKY and Pepperdine have their past exams available online...it's no Harvard, but once you run out of your own, and still feel the need...

Just checked out Pepperdine's: Jackpot.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: 1L Work Load @ T14 vs. 25-75
« on: December 05, 2008, 11:52:42 PM »
This is a really good thread. This has probably already been asked somewhere, but what makes the reading so slow (I think someone mentioned they do about 8 pages an hour)? Is it just a lot that you need to know for exams? Taking notes? Just really dense material? If anyone knows about the structure of typical law school exams, that would be helpful too, since I have no idea of how the material is tested.

It doesn't take me that long.

Generally, here's the breakdown:

Procedural posture shouldn't take more than a minute or two after CivPro.  You should understand standards of appellate review, summary judgment, judgment as a matter of law, interloctuory appeals like 1292(a) and injunctions, and even the collateral order doctrine when it makes a rare showing.

The facts should also not take you more than a minute or two.  If it's unfamiliar subject matter like construction, you might have to think a little harder about the subject matter in front of you, but, still, you should do fine.

Identifying the rule and holding, or even very relevant dicta, should not take more than another few minutes.  This is what you're after.  The court's reasoning can be important, but most reasoning can be reduced to familiar legal elements: plain language vs. intent, conflict of law issues, policy bull like cost-justified precautions in Torts, freedom of contract, distinguishing/analogizing cases, and even precedent adherence.

I read fast, when I read at all.  (I'm a huge slacker in terms of the casebook.  I invest much more time and effort with the hornbook.)

Wow, I'm really glad our civ pro professor does not focus on those small rules.  She seems to be much more functionally-minded...class (and past exams) are about the complexities of the rules we'll actually need to know and apply.

Then again, she was a civil rights litigator for twenty years before joining academia, so there ya go... (did I mention she was on 20/20??)

And I agree with Dr. Pepper about the two semester thing.  NONE of my classes, save legal writing which is pass/fail, are two semesters, and I am intensely grateful for that fact.

When looking at law schools, I never even considered whether the writing class was pass fail or how many classes were in each 1L semester; but I think both of those factors can change your law school experience dramatically. I'm not sure it would've affected my decision, but I wish I had known then what I know now.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: 1L Work Load @ T14 vs. 25-75
« on: December 05, 2008, 10:58:24 PM »
CLS 1Ls take three core classes + legal writing in first semester, then three core classes + elective + legal writing second semester.  I love this structure, namely because you start off with a lighter load while you're still getting used to law school.  Also, our legal writing program is pass/fail which, in my opinion, is absolutely essential to your mental well being.


Our legal writing class was not pass/fail, to the detriment of my mental health. Our entire grade was based on a memo due at the end of November. I spent as much time on my writing class as all of my others combined before I turned that freakin memo in. Not to mention I have five other classes: torts, civ pro, crim law, contract, and property (civ pro, contracts, and property carry over into the spring). To make things worse, one of my buddies at a T20 school couldn't believe my legal writing class was causing me stress; his was pass/fail and wasn't hard at all. My school falls in the T25-75.


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General Board / Re: Everyone But Me is Studying. Succumb to Peer Pressure?
« on: November 30, 2008, 04:35:38 PM »
Your a loser study if you want fag dont ask people chumpass


Law school isn't for you. Also, learn to punctuate unless you plan on working construction. Actually, you should learn no matter what you do.

Catcher in the Rye, real f-ing original a-hole


Thank you.

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General Board / Re: Everyone But Me is Studying. Succumb to Peer Pressure?
« on: November 28, 2008, 10:47:38 PM »
Your a loser study if you want fag dont ask people chumpass


Law school isn't for you. Also, learn to punctuate unless you plan on working construction. Actually, you should learn no matter what you do.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Sweet jesus don't highlight
« on: November 24, 2008, 02:13:24 PM »
Wow, this is dumb. That's great that you feel like highlighting is a waste of time for you.

I don't necessarily highlight for "comprehension." I highlight so that I can respond in class - if my prof calls on me, I can easily find some relevant info (holding, rules, etc.). It works for me in class.


I do the same thing. Quit hating on the highlighters.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Good enough for SMU part time?
« on: November 17, 2008, 02:24:44 PM »
how come their 25th percentile is a 152?  It seems strange that a 158 is the lowest possible score you can have and still be competitive when clearly people with much lower scores got admitted...any insight?

It's 152 just because it is, and what do you mean by competitive? 158 should get you into the PT program, but I also know a couple of people who got into the FT program with less than that.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Good enough for SMU part time?
« on: November 16, 2008, 11:33:23 PM »
in general, are there any glaring disadvantages to applying PT? does SMU still allow you opportunities for summer internships and law review?

No disadvantages. They absolutely allow PT students just as many opportunities for summer internships and law review.

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