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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Bash UCLA here
« on: May 07, 2006, 01:50:38 AM »

4)Not UCLA's fault.  With Beverly Hills right next door, you get people like that.  Fine, I'll give you one thing about people in LA being superficial (if they don't like you, they can hide it well, unlike in NY -- they scream at you).

Alright, while I don't care for the East vs. West coast tone that is apparent in the attitudes of many people on both sides of the argument (because I truly love NY and LA), this is one thing I will say I hate about NY and NYers.  I come from Southern/Western stock, and whether or not that is why, I was raised to be polite.  I think if you don't like someone, you can still be friendly and nice to them.  I call that polite.  People around here call it superficial.  I have had a lot of people at Columbia not like me because I am supposedly "superficial", and I have disliked a lot of people because I can't handle the unforgiving manner in which they let you know how they really feel about you.

I understand, of course, that there are other elements contributing to LA's reputation for superficiality - the emphasis on youth & beauty at any cost, mainly.  But being nice to everybody is just basic decency, and it sure makes life a lot more pleasant - I'm glad LA has figured that part out. 

I'm not from New York, but I am from the northeast (and I've spent a few years in the south), and I've got to say, the fake nice pisses me off.  Don't get me wrong, some people are geniunely extraordinarily nice, but a lot of people are just insincerely friendly.  SO annoying.

just had to jump in and say that I agree with this.  First off, I think NYers get a bump wrap for being mean. Well that's not the case.  The fact is, in NY and the NE for that matter, people don't feel the need to be nice to people they don't know.  Yet, if stop someone in the street and ask them a question, they will help you.  That's one thing I hate about the south--if you don't stop and wave and converse, you are seen as a feminine hygiene product, which is ridiculous.

i would rather people be polite than rude jsut because they dont know you.  Maybe they arent being fake, they just aren't being rude like you are used to, so you assume they are being insincere.  People dont have to be assholes to be "real"

I don't have a bad thing to say about UCLA, but as a Los Angelino who grew up right near UCLA, i can tell you LA people are the most fake of any I have met...

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I think it depends on what you REALLY want to do after. Basically, 160k plus interest is a lot. You need to decide if having the GW degree is simply worth the extra stress the debt will bring about...

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In any case, I still don't understand quite what the problem is that we're trying to solve. If we knew what the problem was, we could devise a solution to it.

Tell that to all the protesters...

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Seriously though, do people really think that migrants ENJOY leaving behind family and friends to trek across the desert and then go pick apples?  The reason why there will always be illegal immigration (wall or no wall) is because the standard of living here is so very much higher.

Well, I think it depends on what you mean by "enjoy". Do lawyers "enjoy" working 70 hour weeks?

We do it because we have to...i don't think whether or not they "enjoy" being in the US is the issue...The fact is, they want to be in the US or they wouldn't come.


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okay, who disagrees with this?

1. figure out a way to document all illegal immigrants currently in the US and provide some sort of path for them to achieve resident and eventually citizen status.

2. stop all immigration that occurs without proper documentation.  expand legal avenues of immigration.

Number 2 is impossible without a wall, which is bad.

why is a wall bad?

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okay, who disagrees with this?

1. figure out a way to document all illegal immigrants currently in the US and provide some sort of path for them to achieve resident and eventually citizen status.

2. stop all immigration that occurs without proper documentation.  expand legal avenues of immigration.


sounds good to me...

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I don't think it's proper to frame this argument in an anti-immigrant/pro-immigrant or anti/pro-illegal immigrant way.

There are quite a few issues at hand here. It's clear that many people oppose further mass illegal immigration. That doesn't mean they want the current illegals deported. Those issues shouldn't be conflated.

It seems to me that the mainstream argument has to do with under what system we keep the current illegals here and what should happen to limit illegal immigration in the future.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: bird flu
« on: May 04, 2006, 08:46:01 AM »
Well, As someone who is currently living in Hong Kong, and lived here through the SARS I am not really worried. If it happens it happens, but life goes on. I still get concerned calls from my relatives in the States, it seems like the media in the US makes a bigger deal out of it.

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i don't agree with you that favoring gay rights but opposing immigrant rights is inconsistent, by the way.  it's all a question of interest.

That's what I say. It's all a question of prejudice. I'd just much rather people came to the point and said I don't like poor mexicans, than to hide behind flimsy argument.



I didn't realize it was time to play the "racist" card yet...

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No - not being sarcastic. I am amazed at how right-wing this board is, not in any principled way but purely as a matter of selfishness: if it affects you, liberal; if it affects someone else, conservative to the extreme etc. I'd say 80- 90% of the board is that way.



Well you assume that Bonkers Jr. is against "immigration rights"(Not supporting emancipation for illegals doesn't make one against immigration rights...he may be fully in support of increased LEGAL immigration) and then generalize about people being conservative unless they're selfish.

Maybe "labeling" would have been better than "generalizing"....my bad...


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