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Where should I go next fall? / Re: USC
« on: May 10, 2006, 06:11:11 AM »
hehe. I don't think you should be discouraged, though, because:

1) You don't deal with the admissions people after you get in.

and

2) I have a feeling that this happens to everyone. Dragging people out just makes sense if they're borderline accept/WL or WL/reject. It's quite impersonal and driven by the law of the marketplace. If it makes sense for their numbers to do something, they're going to do it even if it discomforts the applicants. Why? Because they let you into school; they have you by the short hairs. Students can turn the tables if they have precocious numbers or are URM, and then it is schools who court the applicant.

I got my USC acceptance on my birthday, decently early for a december application, and a quick scholarship offer. I had to wait a month and a half more for Berkeley to reject me, and until mid-April for UCLA to accept me. I'm sure that's all a product of my numbers--I was a solid candidate for USC, so they were reasonably quick, Berkeley was way out of my league, so they felt no particular pressing need to get back to me soon. UCLA, with my numbers, had to be almost 100% sure I would come if admitted, so my acceptance vs. rejection or WLing was completely a process of careful yield management and class-filling. If other people hadn't withdrawn, I wouldn't have gotten in.

So in short, don't be discouraged about USC. Be disillusioned about law school admissions. :)


I think your point is generally correct, however USC is definitely much slower than other schools. This year their dean of admissions left, which probably contributed to their slowness. I mean, they still have A LOT pending for mid-may. At this point most other schools would have at least waitlisted a lot of the people waiting.

I do agree that if you want USC and you haven't heard yet, then all you can do is sit back and wait.

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Law School Rankings / Re: Bash UCLA here
« on: May 07, 2006, 03:50:38 AM »

4)Not UCLA's fault.  With Beverly Hills right next door, you get people like that.  Fine, I'll give you one thing about people in LA being superficial (if they don't like you, they can hide it well, unlike in NY -- they scream at you).

Alright, while I don't care for the East vs. West coast tone that is apparent in the attitudes of many people on both sides of the argument (because I truly love NY and LA), this is one thing I will say I hate about NY and NYers.  I come from Southern/Western stock, and whether or not that is why, I was raised to be polite.  I think if you don't like someone, you can still be friendly and nice to them.  I call that polite.  People around here call it superficial.  I have had a lot of people at Columbia not like me because I am supposedly "superficial", and I have disliked a lot of people because I can't handle the unforgiving manner in which they let you know how they really feel about you.

I understand, of course, that there are other elements contributing to LA's reputation for superficiality - the emphasis on youth & beauty at any cost, mainly.  But being nice to everybody is just basic decency, and it sure makes life a lot more pleasant - I'm glad LA has figured that part out. 

I'm not from New York, but I am from the northeast (and I've spent a few years in the south), and I've got to say, the fake nice pisses me off.  Don't get me wrong, some people are geniunely extraordinarily nice, but a lot of people are just insincerely friendly.  SO annoying.

just had to jump in and say that I agree with this.  First off, I think NYers get a bump wrap for being mean. Well that's not the case.  The fact is, in NY and the NE for that matter, people don't feel the need to be nice to people they don't know.  Yet, if stop someone in the street and ask them a question, they will help you.  That's one thing I hate about the south--if you don't stop and wave and converse, you are seen as a feminine hygiene product, which is ridiculous.

i would rather people be polite than rude jsut because they dont know you.  Maybe they arent being fake, they just aren't being rude like you are used to, so you assume they are being insincere.  People dont have to be assholes to be "real"

I don't have a bad thing to say about UCLA, but as a Los Angelino who grew up right near UCLA, i can tell you LA people are the most fake of any I have met...

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: OPC
« on: May 07, 2006, 02:24:58 AM »
that's okay, SC and i cheat all the time.  hell, it's 9:30 in the morning here.

where are you at? it's almost 2:30 pm here...and i am still in bed :)

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: OPC
« on: May 07, 2006, 02:19:52 AM »
I am sort of cheating, because it's daytime where I am...

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: OPC
« on: May 07, 2006, 01:35:04 AM »
OK, I'll join the OPC, what's up?

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I think it depends on what you REALLY want to do after. Basically, 160k plus interest is a lot. You need to decide if having the GW degree is simply worth the extra stress the debt will bring about...

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In any case, I still don't understand quite what the problem is that we're trying to solve. If we knew what the problem was, we could devise a solution to it.

Tell that to all the protesters...

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Seriously though, do people really think that migrants ENJOY leaving behind family and friends to trek across the desert and then go pick apples?  The reason why there will always be illegal immigration (wall or no wall) is because the standard of living here is so very much higher.

Well, I think it depends on what you mean by "enjoy". Do lawyers "enjoy" working 70 hour weeks?

We do it because we have to...i don't think whether or not they "enjoy" being in the US is the issue...The fact is, they want to be in the US or they wouldn't come.


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okay, who disagrees with this?

1. figure out a way to document all illegal immigrants currently in the US and provide some sort of path for them to achieve resident and eventually citizen status.

2. stop all immigration that occurs without proper documentation.  expand legal avenues of immigration.

Number 2 is impossible without a wall, which is bad.

why is a wall bad?

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okay, who disagrees with this?

1. figure out a way to document all illegal immigrants currently in the US and provide some sort of path for them to achieve resident and eventually citizen status.

2. stop all immigration that occurs without proper documentation.  expand legal avenues of immigration.


sounds good to me...

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